Hoster 5.02.7 Songs Not Showing up in Search

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by pcgumshoe

I did this first when I noticed that a KMH file existed for the missing song.

At first I thought I had made a mistake because I selected "Build Database" and let the program get through 3000 songs before I cancelled it.

Then I went in and selected "Index HD Files" and selecting the proper format for importing.

The resulting import and attempts yielded 3000 extra songs, so I rebuilt the database and that came up with a more correct number of 25500.

Even after rebuilding the database, the song didn't show up, but the KMH file shows and the imported.txt file says that it was imported.

If you are getting all 25,500 files showing when you rebuilt the database then that means they all imported correctly. If some versions of the songs are not showing up when you search then the titles must not be correct or exactly the same as the other versions. Try searching by only one key word in the title or the search by the artists last name only. These would be a broader search and should yield all of the versions.
Also in the edit utility try doing a search with the "*" which will list all of the song files , then sort by title and if that doesn't show all versions together then the titles are not the same on all of them.
Some companies use the title in normal sentence format as in the word "A" or "The" at the front of the title and some put those as the last word with a comma. Also you will find that some use the artist name with Last name first and others put first name first. These can all cause search problems.

[pcgumshoe]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

If you are getting all 25,500 files showing when you rebuilt the database then that means they all imported correctly. If some versions of the songs are not showing up when you search then the titles must not be correct or exactly the same as the other versions. Try searching by only one key word in the title or the search by the artists last name only. These would be a broader search and should yield all of the versions.
Also in the edit utility try doing a search with the "*" which will list all of the song files , then sort by title and if that doesn't show all versions together then the titles are not the same on all of them.
Some companies use the title in normal sentence format as in the word "A" or "The" at the front of the title and some put those as the last word with a comma. Also you will find that some use the artist name with Last name first and others put first name first. These can all cause search problems.

One song that is missing 2 versions is called "Teenager In Love" the file is "Mel06-01 - Teenager In Love - Glee" and "CBxxx-0x - Teenager In Love - Perry, Katy"

The "x" in the above are because my memory wanes and I don't remember the disc it is on, but I added it so I know the file format is correct.

The "Mel" version is downloaded from "karaokeversions.com" and is a custom ZIP file and it was downloaded AS a zip although we added the disc number with "Mel" to identify it for the old software and Hoster.

I search under "teenager" two are missing (but imported), I search under "glee," one is missing (but imported). I search under "teenager in love" and three versions show up including one that says "unknown disc" in the disc ID.

I have a thought, and I hope I'm wrong. I did an install for another company back about a year and a half ago, Hoster was the program and I bought it under my credentials for the business (I have 4 copies registered under my account). Back then I worried that if the files inside the zip were not the same title as the zip file, does this make a difference.

For example, when the new POP HITS MONTHLY come out, the software that I use to "NAME" the files isn't updated yet, so the file are originally just labeled PHM0211-01.zip. The mp3 is labeled PHM0211-01 and the cdg is labeled PHM0211-01.cdg inside the zip folder. Later, these files are manipulated to become PHM0211-01 - Song Title - Song Artist.zip and everything is kosher except the files inside don't get these labels changed.

Could files like this be the problem? They were NOT a problem in the past under version 4, but I'm just throwing this against the wall to see what sticks.

At this point, if I can't get the songs to be included in the scan, then they can't use the software... I know a solution is out there save me having to rename every file inside a properly labeled ZIP file. Yes?

Thanks for you post.

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by pcgumshoe

Back then I worried that if the files inside the zip were not the same title as the zip file, does this make a difference.

For example, when the new POP HITS MONTHLY come out, the software that I use to "NAME" the files isn't updated yet, so the file are originally just labeled PHM0211-01.zip. The mp3 is labeled PHM0211-01 and the cdg is labeled PHM0211-01.cdg inside the zip folder. Later, these files are manipulated to become PHM0211-01 - Song Title - Song Artist.zip and everything is kosher except the files inside don't get these labels changed.

Could files like this be the problem? They were NOT a problem in the past under version 4, but I'm just throwing this against the wall to see what sticks.

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I just loaded a test zip file into Hoster. I changed the name on the zip file from "Have you ever really loved a woman- Adams, Bryan"
to "loved a woman- Adams, Bryan" The names inside the ZIP were still the complete name. After importing into Hoster it stores the name as the Zip name the edited shorter one.
Therefore as long as the zip is correctly named the files inside the zip don't have to as long as they are both named identicle except for the extension.
In my example if I searched for "Have you" it would not have found it.