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MackieRocks · #1 August 27th, 2009, 09:23 PM

This may sound like a dumb question... but, I just ordered a new laptop and I need to get another copy of Hoster. Am I required to purchase another copy for two computers or can I get just the one copy I need for the new laptop? Don't need 3 copies when I only have two computers!

P.S. Hoster rocks!!!!!

madjim- with the Lord · #2 August 27th, 2009, 09:35 PM

That depends on which version you bought. If it's not Hoster Lite, you can install it on two computers. Hoster Lite (not Lite Duo) is the only version that installs on one computer only.

Jim

ddouglass · #3 August 27th, 2009, 09:38 PM

Each license for Hoster full can be loaded onto 2 computers. Each license for Hosterlite is for 1 computer. So if you only have 2 computers that you want it on and have Hoster full then you are good to go.
If you have it on two computers now and are taking it off of one then you can install it on the new one. Be sure to be online with any you are going to remove or install.

MackieRocks · #4 August 28th, 2009, 10:05 AM

Gottcha. Thanks guys!

MackieRocks · #5 August 28th, 2009, 12:20 PM

Got one more question. I just ordered a Dell Inspiron 15 and it comes with an integrated Intel video card. I'm told by Dell that I can't upgrade the card to an ATI Radion 9000 or higher since the card is integrated. Is that going to be a problem for my display???

JNS02 · #6 August 28th, 2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MackieRocks

Got one more question. I just ordered a Dell Inspiron 15 and it comes with an integrated Intel video card. I'm told by Dell that I can't upgrade the card to an ATI Radion 9000 or higher since the card is integrated. Is that going to be a problem for my display???

MackieRocks, I just answered this question (to the best of my ability) in your other post (Video Question) on this subject.

But Dale and madjim are the best to answer questions.

(I thing our Government should ask these guys how to balance the budget. I'll bet they could straighten it out. They are THAT GOOD)

madjim- with the Lord · #7 August 28th, 2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JNS02

But Dale and madjim are the best to answer questions.

(I thing our Government should ask these guys how to balance the budget. I'll bet they could straighten it out. They are THAT GOOD)

Ha ha ah ha... Thank you for your kind words!

Jim

ddouglass · #8 August 28th, 2009, 03:25 PM

Cute....I have enough problems just balancing my own budget. I want no part of the government's!

gpayne · #9 September 6th, 2009, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ddouglass

Each license for Hoster full can be loaded onto 2 computers. Each license for Hosterlite is for 1 computer. So if you only have 2 computers that you want it on and have Hoster full then you are good to go.
If you have it on two computers now and are taking it off of one then you can install it on the new one. Be sure to be online with any you are going to remove or install.

I might be a little bit late chiming in on this one but I did not see any one reply that the two licenses can't be for two setups. It can be for one setup and for one test machine. If you are going to run two shows, you need an additional license or did MTU change this.

gpayne

MackieRocks · #10 September 6th, 2009, 10:48 AM

Good question gpayne!

ddouglass · #11 September 6th, 2009, 01:18 PM

It states on the Video Hoster page "Video Hoster can install on your show computer AND a backup computer any number of times, for a total of TWO (2) computer installations, while the new QUAD product installs on 4 computers." That doesn't say anything about a test computer. He said he had only 2 computers he needs one license for the pair.
Now my thought would be if you are doing two shows with just two computers and no back-up you are living rather dangerously.

MackieRocks · #12 September 6th, 2009, 08:24 PM

Gotcha Dale. Thanks for the clarification.

gpayne · #13 September 8th, 2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ddouglass

It states on the Video Hoster page "Video Hoster can install on your show computer AND a backup computer any number of times, for a total of TWO (2) computer installations, while the new QUAD product installs on 4 computers." That doesn't say anything about a test computer. He said he had only 2 computers he needs one license for the pair.
Now my thought would be if you are doing two shows with just two computers and no back-up you are living rather dangerously.

Ok! So just to be clear let's ask them if you can use both of those computers at the same time for a show using Hoster. This is my point. I don't think this is allowed by the license. You can call the second computer anything you like but the licence does not allow you to use both computers at the same time for a show. If this is not so, I'd like to know. Maybe I'll buy more music and run two setups with one license.

I believe you know what I was getting at and you can split hairs over what you call the second computer if you want. I just did not want him to think it was alright to run two show computers with one license at the same time. this is what it sounded like to me in his post as he NEEDED, NOT WANTED to run a second computer without stating the purpose. I don't use my second computer for a backup although I could if I wanted. It has too many programs on it and too much clutter. I have my show system backed up on a cloned drive and there is nothing else on it except for what has to be there. If something happens to the system drive with Hoster on it, I just reboot and start up on the extra drive. My music songs and Hoster songs are on separate drives and are cloned to extra drives the same way. If someone would buy a quad license, I believe that would allow them to run two show computers at the same time with the program on two other computers for backup or test or just to sit there.

gpayne

**admin** · #14 September 8th, 2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gpayne

Ok! So just to be clear let's ask them if you can use both of those computers at the same time for a show using Hoster. This is my point. I don't think this is allowed by the license. You can call the second computer anything you like but the licence does not allow you to use both computers at the same time for a show. If this is not so, I'd like to know. Maybe I'll buy more music and run two setups with one license.

I believe you know what I was getting at and you can split hairs over what you call the second computer if you want. I just did not want him to think it was alright to run two show computers with one license at the same time. this is what it sounded like to me in his post as he NEEDED, NOT WANTED to run a second computer without stating the purpose. I don't use my second computer for a backup although I could if I wanted. It has too many programs on it and too much clutter. I have my show system backed up on a cloned drive and there is nothing else on it except for what has to be there. If something happens to the system drive with Hoster on it, I just reboot and start up on the extra drive. My music songs and Hoster songs are on separate drives and are cloned to extra drives the same way. If someone would buy a quad license, I believe that would allow them to run two show computers at the same time with the program on two other computers for backup or test or just to sit there.

gpayne

Read the license in the manual.

The license allows running Hoster on computers you own, whether you have Hoster Lite, Hoster Lite Duo, Hoster or Hoster Quad.

After years of supporting Professionals and Amatur Hosts, we designed our pricing and licening to keep professionals safe, and keep our support costs down.

Part of the price of Hoster is the support demands on us PER COMPUTER and the PANIC DEMANDS on us PER SHOW.

When someone is using both copies to run shows at the same time, we can't prevent it.

However, when one Show computer goes down and we get EMERGENCY demands, when we discover the problem is one Hoster license on two Show computers, we expect you to buy a second copy for your own protection, and to pay for your extra support demands on MTU.

Last year we upgraded our security so you... our users...can MOVE a Hoster installation from one WORKING computer to another WORKING computer. If you have a Show system and a Backup system (i.e. not in active use), if your Show system fails and you quickly buy a replacement computer, you can now remove the Backup system Hoster installation and install it on the new computer... without any help from MTU required... and your show will happen!

If you are a professional making money using our software, and you don't want to lose a show, you need a backup. It's that simple.

If you buy Hoster Quad, we expect that to be used on up to 3 Show computers with one backup for your safety. Not only do you have ONE RegCode that installs on 4 computers, but you have backup protection YOU can remove and reinstall if one of your Show systems fail. As one can expect, there are NO EMERGENCY demands on MTU for immediate help from Quad users.

gpayne · #15 September 8th, 2009, 10:49 AM

I guess that settles it. I can run both of my computers with Hoster at the same time during shows at different places but I lose my backup!

gpayne

Roy Dennis · #16 September 8th, 2009, 11:13 AM

The legality issue here is that to run 2 show computers at the same time you should own 2 copies of original CD+G disk.
I doubt many people do this if they have computer karaoke.

Roy.

RIKKI TIKKI · #17 September 8th, 2009, 11:32 AM

Can't find a Karaoke Kop when you need one!

gpayne · #18 September 8th, 2009, 02:59 PM

It seems there is never one. Everyone talks about all the illegal download sites or companies that you buy disks from. I wish there was a web site that you could go to that had a list of legal resellers. Even then they may not stay legal so I think you just have to do the best you can. I guess this means that you can only buy disks of the manufacturers such as Soundchoice or Chartbuster. You can buy custom disks if you want to pay $5.00 a piece for them. I'd rather buy a whole disk and have duplicates. I will not pay $5.00 a piece for a single song. I bought singles online from ******. They were $1.00 to $1.49 a piece which I thought was not bad. It seemed to be about what you would pay per song for a whole disk. I checked around and asked if everyone thought they were legal and all I got was yes's. Now everyone is saying they are not legal so I guess I'm not strickly legal. I paid my money now I have songs which appear to not be legal. I guess the right thing to do would be to delete these songs but all I have is hearsay to go on. Where are the karaoke police? I've heard that even Chartbuster has at times not paid their royalties. That makes them illegal doesn't it? You just have to do the best you can. Don't buy from the ones you know are illegal and when you find out someone you bought from is illegal, don't buy from them until you know they are legal. Otherwise you can just drive yourself crazy. I can prove that I've paid for every single song I have. Except for the downloaded ones, I have every single original disk. I also have duplicates that I play from if I have to. That is my right as I understand it and it is unreasonable to ask me to send my scratched disk in for a new one and wait until it comes back before I can use it again. At any rate I guess I'm done on this one. I'ts not going to serve any useful purpose to just keep it going.

gpayne

billyo · #19 September 8th, 2009, 03:21 PM

from what i read was " as long as the disc that you have has the co. name/brand or logo and silk printed and is not a paper label, you're legal..but anyway this legal / illegal thing has been beat to a pulp so i guess it's time to just to bury it and not to talk about it..

bryant · #20 September 8th, 2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by billyo

from what i read was " as long as the disc that you have has the co. name/brand or logo and silk printed and is not a paper label, you're legal..but anyway this legal / illegal thing has been beat to a pulp so i guess it's time to just to bury it and not to talk about it..

Yeah, you're sorta right, but about once a year it just seems to pop up again.

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