Do Not Upgrade To .Net Framework 3.5 - 9/30/08

[madjim- with the Lord]

With the help of James W. Murray we dicovered that Hoster 4.05 does not run correctly under .Net Framework 3.5. You can read the post here:

http://forum.mtu.com/showthread.php?t=10819

Anybody is welcome to test my findings but the change in the way Hoster 4.05 ran was too obvious. The first HDCDG played in slot one of the playlist ran out of sync. I have never seen this with an HDCDG before tonight.

Thanks Again James, we squashed some gremlins with this find.

Jim

[billyo]

Originally Posted by madjim

With the help of James W. Murray we dicovered that Hoster 4.05 does not run correctly under .Net Framework 3.5. You can read the post here:

http://forum.mtu.com/showthread.php?t=10819

Anybody is welcome to test my findings but the change in the way Hoster 4.05 ran was too obvious. The first HDCDG played in slot one of the playlist ran out of sync. I have never seen this with an HDCDG before tonight.

Thanks Again James, we squashed some gremlins with this find.

Jim

i did all the updates except sp3 last night before i upgraded to 4.05 and i think net. frame 3.5 is one of the updates..but did a mocked up show at home for 2 hrs. and 4.05 ran great though..oh well see what happens when i try it again tonight when i get home..thanks..

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by billyo

i did all the updates except sp3 last night before i upgraded to 4.05 and i think net. frame 3.5 is one of the updates..but did a mocked up show at home for 2 hrs. and 4.05 ran great though..oh well see what happens when i try it again tonight when i get home..thanks..

Hey Billy,
I did not get .Net Framework 3.5 did through windows updates so you may be safe. Go to Control Panel> Add/Remove Programs and see what your latest version is.

If you have 3.5, do a system retore to get back to good.

I don't understand why SP3 doesn't like your system. I hope SP2 works for you. If not, you may have to do some additional research on this.

Jim

[billyo]

Originally Posted by madjim

Hey Billy,
I did not get .Net Framework 3.5 did through windows updates so you may be safe. Go to Control Panel> Add/Remove Programs and see what your latest version is.

If you have 3.5, do a system retore to get back to good.

I don't understand why SP3 doesn't like your system. I hope SP2 works for you. If not, you may have to do some additional research on this.

Jim

just read James post, and he said " vista users beware " so this problems only pertain to vista? cause i got xp..you're right sp3 gave me so much grief that i kinda crossed my fingers when i upgraded to 4.05,and so far i don't see any problems ..yet and also one of my friends got the 4.04 and she has sp2 and so far she has no problems, except she just need to put a new drive, ( running out of space 1.? something left out of 80gb)

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by billyo

just read James post, and he said " vista users beware " so this problems only pertain to vista? cause i got xp..you're right sp3 gave me so much grief that i kinda crossed my fingers when i upgraded to 4.05,and so far i don't see any problems ..yet and also one of my friends got the 4.04 and she has sp2 and so far she has no problems, except she just need to put a new drive, ( running out of space 1.? something left out of 80gb)

Billy,
We didn't know .Net Framework 3.5 caused problems with Hoster 4.05 and XP until I installed it on test machine #1. Gave me a grief like I've never seen.

This problem happens in Vista (James) and in XP (Me).

Jim

[billyo]

Originally Posted by madjim

Billy,
We didn't know .Net Framework 3.5 caused problems with Hoster 4.05 and XP until I installed it on test machine #1. Gave me a grief like I've never seen.

This problem happens in Vista (James) and in XP (Me).

Jim

oh ok..i'll check it and see if net frame..3.5 is in my system and i'll removed it when i get home tonight..thanks !!!!

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by billyo

oh ok..i'll check it and see if net frame..3.5 is in my system and i'll removed it when i get home tonight..thanks !!!!

If it is 3.5, be sure to use sytem restore.

Be sure to see this post if you do a system restore:

http://forum.mtu.com/showpost.php?p=83052&postcount=14

Jim

[ddouglass]

Jim, do you have a link to the 3.5? If so send to me via private message. Don't want to post it out here.

[laddie]

Originally Posted by madjim

Billy,
We didn't know .Net Framework 3.5 caused problems with Hoster 4.05 and XP until I installed it on test machine #1. Gave me a grief like I've never seen.

This problem happens in Vista (James) and in XP (Me).

Jim

Jim,
You will have less problems getting rid of 3.5 if you just uninstall it using the control panel and then reloading 3.0.

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Jim, do you have a link to the 3.5? If so send to me via private message. Don't want to post it out here.

Will do Dale.

Jim

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by laddie

Jim,
You will have less problems getting rid of 3.5 if you just uninstall it using the control panel and then reloading 3.0.

Hey Laddie,
You would think! I unistalled Net Framework 3.5 using add/remove programs and Hoster 4.05 kept crashing. Anything I did past this point using add/remove program gave me the same resutls, Hoster 4 kept crashing. By the way I have never seen all of this crashing before, ever. Once I did a system restore back to the original install of net framework 3, Hoster 4.05 went back to running correctly. The crashing stopped.

There may be a file that net framework 3.5 changes that does get get changed back with an uninstall using add/remove programs.

Thanks

Jim

[laddie]

Originally Posted by madjim

Hey Laddie,
You would think! I unistalled Net Framework 3.5 using add/remove programs and Hoster 4.05 kept crashing. Anything I did past this point using add/remove program gave me the same resutls, Hoster 4 kept crashing. By the way I have never seen all of this crashing before, ever. Once I did a system restore back to the original install of net framework 3, Hoster 4.05 went back to running correctly. The crashing stopped.

There may be a file that net framework 3.5 changes that does get get changed back with an uninstall using add/remove programs.

Thanks

Jim

Who knows, it's all magic anyway

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by laddie

Who knows, it's all magic anyway

10-4

Jim

[billyo]

Jim, i just checked all my programs..and luckily i dont have 3.5 i got 3.0..whew!!!!

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by billyo

Jim, i just checked all my programs..and luckily i dont have 3.5 i got 3.0..whew!!!!

Good deal, you should be good to go.

Jim

[bryant]

Originally Posted by laddie

Who knows, it's all magic anyway

Is it possible that there was something else installed around that same time, either from microsoft or from somewhere else, any minor update to any program even?

Nearly every time i do a complete microsoft update, some program gets affected on here and fails to work. My worst case is "blue screen of death" caused by a microsoft security update, which was linked to a camera program that installed a driver on its own. Removing the driver didn't help, and for some reason at that time, system restore didn't work properly; the camera software offered a patch that they admitted would fix this problem. It was one in a million how I found out about it, or I'd still be figuring it out.