Problems with Hoster 4.04 and Xp

[laddie]

Am I the only the XP users who is having major problems with ver 4.04? I see a lot of vista users who have gone back to 4.03, but haven't noticed much from the XP users.

[Beavis]

mine doesnt work right.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Beavis

mine doesnt work right.

What was up with your XP machine again Lonnie?

[Lonman]

???

I never had XP until last week. The machine it's on now lost a motherboard. Up to then I was running 2000 Pro.
Still haven't been able to really use 4.03 on my XP machine in a show yet though. I went to use it last night & it started rebuilding the database at an extremely slow rate, so I cancelled & went back to 3.4, it was becoming show time - that & the fact my other host is leaving in a couple weeks so I want to train with my new host coming in. I rebuilt the database after the show & it took almost an hour for 14K songs - which it should normally take about 10 minutes or so. So we'll see what happens tonight.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Originally Posted by laddie

Am I the only the XP users who is having major problems with ver 4.04? I see a lot of vista users who have gone back to 4.03, but haven't noticed much from the XP users.

Always have had XP on my Show Computer, and until 4.01 never had a bit of problems with Hoster.

Tried to use a few of the new features and Gremlins started rearing their ugly heads. Added clipart to create logo during intermission screen, and having to tweak the resolution was first noticible problem. Then the lyrics were running slow, and had to restart once in a while to sync. Then the computer would freeze and lock up once in a while when playing the first songs of the show.

Added the upgrades as soon as they came along, added more ram to both of my computers, and seemed to be getting better with 4.03. Then 4.04 came out and I have been back and forth to 3.4 a few times when one of these problems arise during show. The one thing that switching back to 3.4 from 4.04 is that I lose any rotation information that is added from the initial starting list, forward. So it shows the initial list, including songs that have already played, and truncates any changes made after the initial list was created.

Also with 4.04 some of the code changed for my Nikkodo songs, and the Title block introduction is garbled, as is the background pictures that show intermittently throughout the Nikkodo Sav selections.

I'm still using 4.04 but probably will be going back to 4.03 if these reoccurring glitches don't improve with 4.05, or maybe soooooner!

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

[laddie]

The following is a list of problems that I reported to MTU support. Could be more.

• music drop outs during search.
• Lyric stop and or lag while loading a singers CD.
• Using the singers DB causes the CPU to go to 100% and lyrics hang
• opening task manager or notebook or anything else causes music drop out
• doing anything while the singer is singing is risky, it seems almost anything causes dropouts.. like opening the marque or changing from the search window to the singers window.

[Skybird74]

Quote: by Laddie: "Added the upgrades as soon as they came along, added more ram to both of my computers, and seemed to be getting better with 4.03. Then 4.04 came out and I have been back and forth to 3.4 a few times when one of these problems arise during show. The one thing that switching back to 3.4 from 4.04 is that I lose any rotation information that is added from the initial starting list, forward. So it shows the initial list, including songs that have already played, and truncates any changes made after the initial list was created."

Laddie, one thing you might want to try is to keep 2 copies of Hoster open at the same time. (4.04 & 3.04) That seems to work for some people. I know it's a pain, but then you can add Singer's disks & play video MUX from 3.4 and then use 4.04 or 4.03 for the rest of the Show. At least then you won't lose your playlists. Many of us are waiting for the VideoMUX to work, so we have no other choice except to go back to using 3.321 or 3.3x.

[laddie]

Originally Posted by Skybird74

Quote: by Laddie: "Added the upgrades as soon as they came along, added more ram to both of my computers, and seemed to be getting better with 4.03. Then 4.04 came out and I have been back and forth to 3.4 a few times when one of these problems arise during show. The one thing that switching back to 3.4 from 4.04 is that I lose any rotation information that is added from the initial starting list, forward. So it shows the initial list, including songs that have already played, and truncates any changes made after the initial list was created."

Laddie, one thing you might want to try is to keep 2 copies of Hoster open at the same time. (4.04 & 3.04) That seems to work for some people. I know it's a pain, but then you can add Singer's disks & play video MUX from 3.4 and then use 4.04 or 4.03 for the rest of the Show. At least then you won't lose your playlists. Many of us are waiting for the VideoMUX to work, so we have no other choice except to go back to using 3.321 or 3.3x.

Sorry sky, not my quote, was Ricks and this may work for him

[Skybird74]

Sorry Laddie. I tried quoting from within a quote to save space....OOOPS
I hope RIKKI... reads it.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Originally Posted by Skybird74

Sorry Laddie. I tried quoting from within a quote to save space....OOOPS
I hope RIKKI... reads it.

Thanks Sky & Laddie,

Not too concerned with video or video/mux problems, except for my future logo applications that I would like to feature during intermission screen. Will try and stay with 4.04 and pinpoint for the beta testers, and Admin current problems with the XP operating system, so their trials have the benefit of KJ's running the latest upgrade, that will lead to fixes for 4.05. The only drawback is losing the updated singer's rotation when having to switch back to 3.4 after a lock-up, or lyric sync issue. I've got shows on Wed, Fri, and Sat this week and will make a determination on stability of 4.04 after a tweak or two with drivers, and resolutions with settings for high definition T.V.'s that a couple of these venues have changed to for Football season. I'll be back!

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

[KaraokeDj38030]

I had to import some new CDG'S Today when low and behold a Gremlin came and stole my thunder, Screen pulls up fine for import however I had to keep my finger pressed firmly on left click to import all songs and I imported like 400 new ones today my finger is wore out I think I got a callus OMG any reason why it would do this other than those nasty little bugs being in there this is a small annoyance compared to VISTA users.Sorry Guys I am have no problems other that this today.

Oh My VISTA NIGHTMARE will be out of the shop tomorrow!!!!!

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by RIKKI TIKKI

Thanks Sky & Laddie,

Not too concerned with video or video/mux problems, except for my future logo applications that I would like to feature during intermission screen. Will try and stay with 4.04 and pinpoint for the beta testers, and Admin current problems with the XP operating system, so their trials have the benefit of KJ's running the latest upgrade, that will lead to fixes for 4.05. The only drawback is losing the updated singer's rotation when having to switch back to 3.4 after a lock-up, or lyric sync issue. I've got shows on Wed, Fri, and Sat this week and will make a determination on stability of 4.04 after a tweak or two with drivers, and resolutions with settings for high definition T.V.'s that a couple of these venues have changed to for Football season. I'll be back!

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

Hey Rick,
I have found if I run my shows in manual mode (which I have always done ) I have no sync problems.

MTU has been working on the playlists, this may be a bug.

One of the places I work just got HDTV. Just manualy resize the screen to fit the TV. It's no big deal.

I can't be more serious about running in manaul mode, I will keep everthing in sync and should work like a champ. Test it and let me know.

I hope your gigs go well this week. I'm fixin' to load up and head to the Charley's for Midnight Karaoke.

Take Care.

Jim

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by KaraokeDj38030

I had to import some new CDG'S Today when low and behold a Gremlin came and stole my thunder, Screen pulls up fine for import however I had to keep my finger pressed firmly on left click to import all songs and I imported like 400 new ones today my finger is wore out I think I got a callus OMG any reason why it would do this other than those nasty little bugs being in there this is a small annoyance compared to VISTA users.Sorry Guys I am have no problems other that this today.

Oh My VISTA NIGHTMARE will be out of the shop tomorrow!!!!!

Hey Fran,
I've done no importing with Hoster 4 so I'm no good to you on this one. Too many other things to test. I'm off to Midnight Karaoke, Good Night.

Jim

[Skybird74]

Originally Posted by RIKKI TIKKI

Thanks Sky & Laddie,

Not too concerned with video or video/mux problems, except for my future logo applications that I would like to feature during intermission screen. Will try and stay with 4.04 and pinpoint for the beta testers, and Admin current problems with the XP operating system, so their trials have the benefit of KJ's running the latest upgrade, that will lead to fixes for 4.05. The only drawback is losing the updated singer's rotation when having to switch back to 3.4 after a lock-up, or lyric sync issue. I've got shows on Wed, Fri, and Sat this week and will make a determination on stability of 4.04 after a tweak or two with drivers, and resolutions with settings for high definition T.V.'s that a couple of these venues have changed to for Football season. I'll be back!

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

Hey Rikki, do you Save your current playlist frequently? If so, then you should be able to open it up in 3.4 (according to the Manual), except songs added from Singer's disks. If not, then there is a problem.

[hwheeler43]

Hey Fran, I imported 7 new CDGs last night and worked great with 4.04. Not sure what could have caused your issue. The only problem I have encountered with 4.04 is that while I was importing I had Microsoft Defender updating at the same time. After the import I tried playing one of the songs and then video stopped for a bit. I then realized that Defender was doing a scan. I stopped the scan and exited Defender and restarted Hoster. I then played the file in question all the way through and it worked fine. My point to all this is that a lot of problems are probably being caused by background programs running.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Originally Posted by Skybird74

Hey Rikki, do you Save your current playlist frequently? If so, then you should be able to open it up in 3.4 (according to the Manual), except songs added from Singer's disks. If not, then there is a problem.

Sky,

Never have saved playlist, no need to! Usually set up a few songs from singers playlist db and then shuffle them to rotation order. If I go back to 3.4 from 4.04 the playlist is the original without the changes, and also shows played songs if I'm already into the show. Jim says its a known problem, possibly a bug, so I'll be extra careful with 4.04, playing show in manual mode instead of auto, and see if I can wait out the fix in 4.05. I'll post anything new that occurs, or if show runs smoothly this week!

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by KaraokeDj38030

I had to import some new CDG'S Today when low and behold a Gremlin came and stole my thunder, Screen pulls up fine for import however I had to keep my finger pressed firmly on left click to import all songs and I imported like 400 new ones today my finger is wore out I think I got a callus OMG any reason why it would do this other than those nasty little bugs being in there this is a small annoyance compared to VISTA users.Sorry Guys I am have no problems other that this today.

Oh My VISTA NIGHTMARE will be out of the shop tomorrow!!!!!

What are you having to hold down during the import? What type of files are you importing?

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by RIKKI TIKKI

Sky,

Never have saved playlist, no need to! Usually set up a few songs from singers playlist db and then shuffle them to rotation order. If I go back to 3.4 from 4.04 the playlist is the original without the changes, and also shows played songs if I'm already into the show. Jim says its a known problem, possibly a bug, so I'll be extra careful with 4.04, playing show in manual mode instead of auto, and see if I can wait out the fix in 4.05. I'll post anything new that occurs, or if show runs smoothly this week!

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

Have you tried opening 3.4 before you close 4.04? That should transfer the playlist exactly as it is.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Dale,

Create a playlist from singers database, move songs around to rotation order, play a song.... while it is playing (Auto Mode), add a couple of new songs or singers from singers database, stop song. Open 3.40 and see if the newer songs are not truncated, or left out in that playlist? If you had been in your show for a while when you try to revert back to 3.4, you will probably get those already played songs as well.

This is kinda how my last experience with show created the problem.

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

[Skybird74]

Originally Posted by RIKKI TIKKI
Sky,

Never have saved playlist, no need to! Usually set up a few songs from singers playlist db and then shuffle them to rotation order. If I go back to 3.4 from 4.04 the playlist is the original without the changes, and also shows played songs if I'm already into the show. Jim says its a known problem, possibly a bug, so I'll be extra careful with 4.04, playing show in manual mode instead of auto, and see if I can wait out the fix in 4.05. I'll post anything new that occurs, or if show runs smoothly this week!

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

You stated above that you "never have saved playlist". If 3.4 doesn't know you changed the playlist in 4.04, then maybe "saving it" before you open 3.4 will. It doesn't hurt to try