Hoster 5.09 Has been released May 28, 2013

[Roy Dennis]

I just did a search and found a folder on my windows 7 similar to the path you mentioned.
Perhaps you can't find it because you have folders option set to hide hidden folders.
To alter this open control panel/folder options then click the view tab, look down the list for Hidden files and folders and select Show Hidden files.

The folder on my computer was: C:\Users\Roy\AppData\local\Temp\MTU_Hoster obviously Yours wont be Roy

[bburton166]

Originally Posted by bburton166

Just installed Hoster 5.09.02 and after indexing my songs it only located half of the songs from my hard drive. I just changed from a Dell with XP pro to an Asues with Windows 8. I have approximately 250,000 karaoke songs, some are in KMA formate, others are MP3G and zipped files. While re-scanning the folders in the database, hoster stops responding. I restart the program and go through the same process and again, hoster stops responding. I can also take and start the program and start a show; while a song is playing and searching for another song, hoster stops responding. Any thoughts or suggestions on how to fix this problem?

Thanks,
Brett

Has anyone been able to figure out what the issue is that I am having? I had a prior version of Hoster on the old computer's "C" drive. The hard drive that containes my music was in the old computer but it only had karaoke files and music on it. This was a fresh install from scratch on a brand new computer that had never had hoster installed. I did go through all the processes of changing windows prior to installing hoster. The version that was on my old computer was 5.8 and prior to that was 4.30. I did not have any version of Hoster on the drive that I transfered over from the old computer to the new one.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brett

[uhuhnottelling]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

I just did a search and found a folder on my windows 7 similar to the path you mentioned.
Perhaps you can't find it because you have folders option set to hide hidden folders.
To alter this open control panel/folder options then click the view tab, look down the list for Hidden files and folders and select Show Hidden files.

The folder on my computer was: C:\Users\Roy\AppData\local\Temp\MTU_Hoster obviously Yours wont be Roy

omg roy!!! i don't know why that didn't occur to me. thank you. YES! that did the trick. found 177G of files in the temp directory. now my lappy can stop runnin' on fumes. thank you! and... right again...i couldn't find a 'roy' directory anywhere on my system. huh, how do you do it? ;)

[uhuhnottelling]

Originally Posted by bburton166

Has anyone been able to figure out what the issue is that I am having? I had a prior version of Hoster on the old computer's "C" drive. The hard drive that containes my music was in the old computer but it only had karaoke files and music on it. This was a fresh install from scratch on a brand new computer that had never had hoster installed. I did go through all the processes of changing windows prior to installing hoster. The version that was on my old computer was 5.8 and prior to that was 4.30. I did not have any version of Hoster on the drive that I transfered over from the old computer to the new one.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brett

perhaps re-installing an earlier version that worked with your system, importing your songs, then upgrading? not a solution mind you but perhaps a workaround?

[uhuhnottelling]

Originally Posted by bburton166

Has anyone been able to figure out what the issue is that I am having? I had a prior version of Hoster on the old computer's "C" drive. The hard drive that containes my music was in the old computer but it only had karaoke files and music on it. This was a fresh install from scratch on a brand new computer that had never had hoster installed. I did go through all the processes of changing windows prior to installing hoster. The version that was on my old computer was 5.8 and prior to that was 4.30. I did not have any version of Hoster on the drive that I transfered over from the old computer to the new one.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brett

had another thought brett. perhaps you're having a similar issue as i just solved. my imports would freeze when the temp file filled up my HD and there was no more space to continue.

check for a temp folder in C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\local\Temp\MTU_Hoster

and... (thank you roy) make sure you have folders option set to view hidden folders.... "open control panel/folder options then click the view tab, look down the list for Hidden files and folders and select Show Hidden files."

hope it helps

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by bburton166

Has anyone been able to figure out what the issue is that I am having? I had a prior version of Hoster on the old computer's "C" drive. The hard drive that containes my music was in the old computer but it only had karaoke files and music on it. This was a fresh install from scratch on a brand new computer that had never had hoster installed. I did go through all the processes of changing windows prior to installing hoster. The version that was on my old computer was 5.8 and prior to that was 4.30. I did not have any version of Hoster on the drive that I transfered over from the old computer to the new one.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brett

Brett,

I notice you have a 1TB drive in your new computer and a 1TB slave drive. I assume the slave drive was used with your old computer and songs on this drive were indexed and in the version of Hoster you were running. If this is correct, I am guessing that the songs that you were able to index into your new setup were the KMA files. The songs you had that are MP3G and Bin files may have been indexed in you old computer as KMH files. If so, you must go to the folder or folders that these songs are located and see if you have a "importedfiles.txt". If so this is why they won't import into your new system because Hoster thinks they are already there. You may also have a KMH file associated with each of these songs. Check and see if this is the case and post back and we will take it from there. You can locate your song folders on the slave drive through Windows Explorer. It is important that you don't do anything with these files until you are sure they are the missing songs.

As far as your issue of "Hoster not responding", I notice this happens more frequently with a very large data base which you seem to have. Adding to this problem may be the fact that you have so many songs that Hoster can't recognize and if the situation is as I described above it may be bogging down Hoster. MTU would have to jump in on this since I am not a coder. Good luck and get back to us after you check the above.

Walt

[bburton166]

Originally Posted by WaltR

Brett,

I notice you have a 1TB drive in your new computer and a 1TB slave drive. I assume the slave drive was used with your old computer and songs on this drive were indexed and in the version of Hoster you were running. If this is correct, I am guessing that the songs that you were able to index into your new setup were the KMA files. The songs you had that are MP3G and Bin files may have been indexed in you old computer as KMH files. If so, you must go to the folder or folders that these songs are located and see if you have a "importedfiles.txt". If so this is why they won't import into your new system because Hoster thinks they are already there. You may also have a KMH file associated with each of these songs. Check and see if this is the case and post back and we will take it from there. You can locate your song folders on the slave drive through Windows Explorer. It is important that you don't do anything with these files until you are sure they are the missing songs.

As far as your issue of "Hoster not responding", I notice this happens more frequently with a very large data base which you seem to have. Adding to this problem may be the fact that you have so many songs that Hoster can't recognize and if the situation is as I described above it may be bogging down Hoster. MTU would have to jump in on this since I am not a coder. Good luck and get back to us after you check the above.

Walt

Walt,
Iwent into my slave drive and each folder that I have on that drive does have the "importedfiles.txt" file in them. I also followed the instructions in a previous post about showing hidden files and went to my temp folder, only had two songs in it. What do I need to do from here?

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by bburton166

Has anyone been able to figure out what the issue is that I am having? I had a prior version of Hoster on the old computer's "C" drive. The hard drive that containes my music was in the old computer but it only had karaoke files and music on it. This was a fresh install from scratch on a brand new computer that had never had hoster installed. I did go through all the processes of changing windows prior to installing hoster. The version that was on my old computer was 5.8 and prior to that was 4.30. I did not have any version of Hoster on the drive that I transfered over from the old computer to the new one.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brett

Trying to understand your drive situation.
I take it you installed Hoster to your C\drive to all the default paths ?

Do you have music files on this C\ drive as well ?

Or is all your music on the slave drive ?

Does one of the drives hold a backup or copy of the same music files that you import ?

How much free space is showing on the C\Drive ?

[bburton166]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

Trying to understand your drive situation.
I take it you installed Hoster to your C\drive to all the default paths ?

Do you have music files on this C\ drive as well ?

Or is all your music on the slave drive ?

Does one of the drives hold a backup or copy of the same music files that you import ?

How much free space is showing on the C\Drive ?

I am new to Windows 8. It shows that on the Windows C drive I have 103gb of 149gb free; on the Data D drive I have 597gb of 764gb free and on my Karaoke F drive I have 382gb of 931gb free. I do not have any music or karaoke on any other drive except for my F drive. I am not sure why I have a C & D drive and why they are different. Hope this helps.

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by bburton166

I am new to Windows 8. It shows that on the Windows C drive I have 103gb of 149gb free; on the Data D drive I have 597gb of 764gb free and on my Karaoke F drive I have 382gb of 931gb free. I do not have any music or karaoke on any other drive except for my F drive. I am not sure why I have a C & D drive and why they are different. Hope this helps.

It sounds like it has made 2 petitions on the internal hard drive so although you have 1 TB you only have a relatively small C:\drive compared to the amount of songs you have on your F drive. I think this might be causing problems when Hoster uses your C drive for tempory storage as has been found in earlier posts although you say you checked the temp folder and only found a couple of songs in it.

In view of this I have to ask you another question, on your F drive are your music files stored in separate folders for different types, all in one single folder or no folder at all just in the F drive ?

Assuming your answer above is separate folders

I would try the following:
Open Hoster/Tools/Hoster data folder close Hoster but leave the data folder open, find your HosterInfoIndexed.ini file and delete it.
Now open Hosters build songs database dialog and the list of folders in the bottom left window should now be empty or it might just have a single folder something like C\MTU.
Now clear any highlighted buttons in the top area under song types to index, then press the rebuild database button, this should give you an empty database to start from.
Now assuming your files are in separate folders on the F drive and none of the song types to index buttons are highlighted, use the Add folder button (not the Add Folders/subfolders button) and select one of your folders from the F drive preferably the smallest one for this test and see if it indexes those files OK.
If all goes well add more folders one at a time, if after it indexed the folder it reports any thing like only indexed xxx out of xxxx or any other messages report back what happened.

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by bburton166

Walt,
Iwent into my slave drive and each folder that I have on that drive does have the "importedfiles.txt" file in them. I also followed the instructions in a previous post about showing hidden files and went to my temp folder, only had two songs in it. What do I need to do from here?

Sorry I couldn't get back to you yesterday, I was tied up most of the afternoon and evening. Since my post, Roy has posted a detailed description on what you need to do. He has the answers and this should solve your problem or get you very close to where you want to be. Post back and let us know how you make out.

Walt

[bburton166]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

It sounds like it has made 2 petitions on the internal hard drive so although you have 1 TB you only have a relatively small C:\drive compared to the amount of songs you have on your F drive. I think this might be causing problems when Hoster uses your C drive for tempory storage as has been found in earlier posts although you say you checked the temp folder and only found a couple of songs in it.

In view of this I have to ask you another question, on your F drive are your music files stored in separate folders for different types, all in one single folder or no folder at all just in the F drive ?

Assuming your answer above is separate folders

I would try the following:
Open Hoster/Tools/Hoster data folder close Hoster but leave the data folder open, find your HosterInfoIndexed.ini file and delete it.
Now open Hosters build songs database dialog and the list of folders in the bottom left window should now be empty or it might just have a single folder something like C\MTU.
Now clear any highlighted buttons in the top area under song types to index, then press the rebuild database button, this should give you an empty database to start from.
Now assuming your files are in separate folders on the F drive and none of the song types to index buttons are highlighted, use the Add folder button (not the Add Folders/subfolders button) and select one of your folders from the F drive preferably the smallest one for this test and see if it indexes those files OK.
If all goes well add more folders one at a time, if after it indexed the folder it reports any thing like only indexed xxx out of xxxx or any other messages report back what happened.

Great, thanks. My music files are in seperate folders from my karaoke files. I did find the HosterInfoIndexed.ini file and deleted it. I will try and index my smallest folder via the method you stated and see how that goes. I will message you back.

[bburton166]

I followed the instructions on indexing a small folder. I started with no folders in my list and attempted to index the smallest folder which had 14 songs I just downloaded. No boxes were highlighted and I received 0 songs out of 0 songs were added to database. I did try to highlight the zip file type after the first attempt and still received 0 our of 0 songs indexed.

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by bburton166

I followed the instructions on indexing a small folder. I started with no folders in my list and attempted to index the smallest folder which had 14 songs I just downloaded. No boxes were highlighted and I received 0 songs out of 0 songs were added to database. I did try to highlight the zip file type after the first attempt and still received 0 our of 0 songs indexed.

One thing I forgot to mention, When I said do this with no boxes selected on the smallest folder. I meant a folder that had previously been indexed as that should have the accompanying kmh header file in the folder, or kma file that also contains the header info. With no songs of type selected It will only import all the original files.

Having said that I'm surprised that if you tried importing 14 new tracks with the zip type highlighted that it didn't import them, when you brows to the folder, you must be right in the open file and should see all the files listed before pressing the select button, what makes me suspicious you were not right into the folder was you said it reported 0 out of 0 where as it should have said 0 songs imported out of 14.


Anyway this brings up another question, do the other folders that contain the files your trying to import have the accompanying kmh file ?

If you originally imported them as .zip types you should have a pair of files a zip + a kmh file, if you are importing them un-zipped you would have 3 files for each, an mp3, cdg and the kmh file all named identicle except for the extention.

If you import them as kma files you will only have the single kmh file as that contains all the data.

Now when you do this you must import all your previously imported files first or it will start numbering them with book ids or disc ids that are already in your system.
So don't try it with files that have never been indexed until you get all your original files back working.

Another thing I should have told you to do also, before doing any importing, after clearing the list of folders in the index files list, press the rebuild database button so as to create an empty database.

On another note is your old computer that you say you uninstalled Hoster from, does that still have the C\ drive in it.
If so open it and see if the Hoster folder is still there, it should have been in C\MTU folder, if the Hoster folder is still there we may be able to recover your system from that so let us know.

[bburton166]

Ok, the file that I tried to index had the kmh file in the folder for each song. I was inside the folder that I attempted to index when I got the 0 out of 0 songs imported.

As for the "C" drive in the old computer, it is still there however I attempted to install 5.08 on it and Hoster continued to freeze in the middle of a show anytime I would search. That computer was old, slow and needed to be put out to pasture. I am afraid that what ever is on the "C" drive will affect this new computer. However, now I think whatever was in the drive that I have all my music and songs on is trash also as I am having the same issues with a brand new computer as I was with my old one.

[Roy Dennis]

Bret, go over this one more time with the deleting the HosterInfoIndexed.ini but this time before using the add folder button press the Rebuild Data base button, this will create a blank database to start from then do the Add folder thing again and see if it imports this time.
If no luck press the rebuild database again with just your one test folder in then and see if it says xxx out of xxxx rebuilding or still reports 0.

[bburton166]

Roy, that worked. I was able to import those songs in the small folder however I had to go back and edit them as they did not import in the correct format with the title and artist seperate. It had the artist and title in the title box. Will I have to edit every song now? Will I also have to import all my folders this way or can I go through the index songs function? Thanks for getting me this far.

[Roy Dennis]

Just to test a bit further before adding all your folders, add another folder to the list and if necessary rebuild the database again after.

Then check if you are still getting one long file name.

If these folders were imported before and contain the kmh header file they should import with the title and artist order as it was on your old computer because all that info is in the kmh or kma header file.

Maybe that odd 14 were wrong before.

If it then seems OK you could try using the Add Folder/Subfolders button and brows to your F drive and select that, it will then automatically import all the files on that drive containing both kma & kmh files.
Then if necessary use the rebuild database again after they are all imported.

But again don't have any of the files of types highlighted at the top until you finish importing all your previously indexed files.

[bburton166]

I imported another small folder and it gave one long title with artist, title, and a bunch of other info. So if all the songs were imported with this kmh header and have the long title already, then I will have to go and edit as I add folders it sounds like. Unfortunately I was not the one that imported the previous database, I was the one asked to fix it.

[Roy Dennis]

So it seems they have always been this way

There is another tool in the rebuild database dialog "Define field Order" button where you select the field order but that only works on files that have never been imported before and you would also have to use "Song Types to index " feature with it.

You would probably be better of re-importing them via the Index Song Files dialog. but before reimporting them from there you would probably need to delete the importedFiles.txt in each folder first.

With the amount of files you have this is going to be a long job unless all your files follow the same naming order, which I doubt they would so you would have to be monitoring it all the time.

If you think they were all imported originally with the one long file name then I think this would be the best option If you want them named correctly otherwise you would need to edit every file separately.
Alternately import them all for now as previously but use the Add folders/subfolders button and then see if they are all one long file name or if it only applies to a few.

If decide to re-import the files and you have some kma files that were imported direct from disc might be better importing them as you did with the 2 small folders first as you can't change their field order and that will stop any duplicated problems when reimporting the others.