Post Hoster 5.07 Problems Here

[KenKelley]

Originally Posted by bryant

Ken, do you also use fade in/out? What settings?

Bryant,

On the play list I use 0 fade in and 2 for the fade out also I use 10 for the Prevent Audio Dropouts.

[Skybird74]

Bryant, do you still have only 2Gig of RAM? I found I had less problems when I went from 2-3 Gig of RAM. That's especially helpful with Video.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Skybird74

Bryant, do you still have only 2Gig of RAM? I found I had less problems when I went from 2-3 Gig of RAM. That's especially helpful with Video.

This is a brand new laptop with nothing on it, defragged, all background services disabled, only two installed programs, Hoster and VDJ, but only Hoster running. It has 8 gB ram and a 1 gB video ram dedicated video card, i5 processor at 2.6 gHz speed, and a 7200 rpm 750 gB HD with 2/3 of that being free and empty. It is a top-of-the-line gaming laptop for like $1,000 . Never goes online, but is fully windows 7 updated at this time with ALL MTU recommendations for Windows 7 accomplished.

I play every form of video on high def over 4 extended screens very clearly and completely flawless with every video effect running simultaneously that you can imagine with Virtual DJ for hours on end.

Could do the same thing with Hoster 4.09D and VDJ on a 10 year old 2 gB laptop just two months ago. Never had a crash back then.

[Skybird74]

Originally Posted by bryant

This is a brand new laptop with nothing on it, defragged, all background services disabled, only two installed programs, Hoster and VDJ, but only Hoster running. It has 8 gB ram and a 1 gB video ram dedicated video card, i5 processor at 2.6 gHz speed, and a 7200 rpm 750 gB HD with 2/3 of that being free and empty. It is a top-of-the-line gaming laptop for like $1,000 . Never goes online, but is fully windows 7 updated at this time with ALL MTU recommendations for Windows 7 accomplished.

I play every form of video on high def over 4 extended screens very clearly and completely flawless with every video effect running simultaneously that you can imagine with Virtual DJ for hours on end.

Could do the same thing with Hoster 4.09D and VDJ on a 10 year old 2 gB laptop just two months ago. Never had a crash back then.

OK, I thought you had a new laptop, but your Signature says you only have 2Gig of Ram, so I was going by that. Remember Hoster also has to use more resourses than 4.09 did because of all the new things that have been added since. I still get an occasional Crash also that I can't pin down to anything but I'm still using my old Vista and I know it took a alot of tweaking. GREMLINS!

[bryant]

Originally Posted by KenKelley

Bryant,

On the play list I use 0 fade in and 2 for the fade out also I use 10 for the Prevent Audio Dropouts.

I've been using 20 for the prevent audio dropout as a further corrective measure. Just started doing that too.

Nearly all of my original nightly crashes were with fade in/out at 2 sec. and remove silence added silence 2 seconds on both ends with prevent audio dropout at 10.

At this time, I am at fade in/out at 3 sec. and remove silence at 3 sec. both ends, and prevent audio dropout at 20.
This combination has been really reliable for about 500-600 singers over the last 20 gigs with this setting.

I'm just hoping that this blast of info I supply on here about the crashes amy come up with something for programmers to get on.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Skybird74

OK, I thought you had a new laptop, but your Signature says you only have 2Gig of Ram, so I was going by that. Remember Hoster also has to use more resourses than 4.09 did because of all the new things that have been added since. I still get an occasional Crash also that I can't pin down to anything but I'm still using my old Vista and I know it took a alot of tweaking. GREMLINS!

yes, I see. My signature says that that is my tester machine. I need to be clearer on that, I guess. I am aware of more resources used for Hoster 5, however, VDJ has had three new upgrades the past three years and the same old laptop with 2 gB is doing fine with it. I would think that going from 2 to 8 gB is way above the the recommendation of Hoster 5's 2 gB ram still.

Maybe somehow I am missing one tweak or something?

How occasional is your crashes, Gerry?

Keep in mind that 1 crash a month for you may be equivalent to twice a week for me at the rate I play.

[KenKelley]

Originally Posted by bryant

I've been using 20 for the prevent audio dropout as a further corrective measure. Just started doing that too.

Nearly all of my original nightly crashes were with fade in/out at 2 sec. and remove silence added silence 2 seconds on both ends with prevent audio dropout at 10.

At this time, I am at fade in/out at 3 sec. and remove silence at 3 sec. both ends, and prevent audio dropout at 20.
This combination has been really reliable for about 500-600 singers over the last 20 gigs with this setting.

I'm just hoping that this blast of info I supply on here about the crashes amy come up with something for programmers to get on.

Bryant,

I can't remember if this base has been covered but do you have the K-Lite Codec Pack, Full installed?

[Skybird74]

Originally Posted by KenKelley

Bryant,

I can't remember if this base has been covered but do you have the K-Lite Codec Pack, Full installed?

That's a good point too....needs to be updated once in a while.

=Bryant, How occasional is your crashes, Gerry?

I've crashed 3 Shows in a row & then 2 Shows in a row with no crashes. Last night I even ran BA and used "Talkover" several times (which I was sure had caused problems before), but NO CRASHES last night I even played 2 mpeg's before I started. I can't pin it down either. I agree that a new computer with 8gigs of Ram shouldn't have any problems. With so many others reporting "no problems", I am beginning to think it may be computer-related. The other night at home, I turned on Hoster & it crashed 15 minutes after I started - for no apparent reason. GREMLINS

[bryant]

Originally Posted by KenKelley

Bryant,

I can't remember if this base has been covered but do you have the K-Lite Codec Pack, Full installed?

Yes. Do.

[bryant]

Sat. Nite with my trusty settings of Hoster only running and remove silence ON , added silence at 3 sec, before and after, fade in/out at 3 sec, and prevent audio dropout at asuper-safe 20, I threw VDJ in the mix now and put that on. Crashed after eight songs, hmm, but others have had crashes w/o vdj on, and I found one of my posts three weeks ago that stated I had not turned vdj onceand had still crashed with these settings at 2 seconds.

Then;
Last night with trusty settings of 3 Sec. And no vdj on, I ran thru 80 singers with NO crashes.

I now wonder if the two second settings increase the chances and/or having vdj on also increase the chances, so far with the trusty 3 sec. Settings AND vdj off I have gone about 700 singers w/o a crash. Also thinking that perhaps I was over due for a random crash andmy time was UP Sat.night and itjust happened.

Really really weird. Let's keep plugging away as I really really really don't wish to go back to the crashless 4.09D, butIcan't let my wife move on yet to Hoster 5.x.

[KenKelley]

Originally Posted by bryant

Sat. Nite with my trusty settings of Hoster only running and remove silence ON , added silence at 3 sec, before and after, fade in/out at 3 sec, and prevent audio dropout at asuper-safe 20, I threw VDJ in the mix now and put that on. Crashed after eight songs, hmm, but others have had crashes w/o vdj on, and I found one of my posts three weeks ago that stated I had not turned vdj onceand had still crashed with these settings at 2 seconds.

Then;
Last night with trusty settings of 3 Sec. And no vdj on, I ran thru 80 singers with NO crashes.

I now wonder if the two second settings increase the chances and/or having vdj on also increase the chances, so far with the trusty 3 sec. Settings AND vdj off I have gone about 700 singers w/o a crash. Also thinking that perhaps I was over due for a random crash andmy time was UP Sat.night and itjust happened.

Really really weird. Let's keep plugging away as I really really really don't wish to go back to the crashless 4.09D, butIcan't let my wife move on yet to Hoster 5.x.

Bryant,

Have you contacted your computer manufacturer to have them walk you through a machine test?

For my computer all I do is hit F12 during the boot sequence. It allows me to check all the hardware onboard to include the ram.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by KenKelley

Bryant,

Have you contacted your computer manufacturer to have them walk you through a machine test?

For my computer all I do is hit F12 during the boot sequence. It allows me to check all the hardware onboard to include the ram.

No, I haven't, but I will. Curious why you ask that as I have stated before all other programs work perfectly and better and faster on this machine that deal with videos. I can even play karaoke files on vdj perfectly using their tempo, key change, along with other effects, on two players at the same time and even split the screen so you can see both; and stop and restart one or the other and move ahead or behind at any pont in the song without ever going out of sync either. Vdj is not even originally designed to use as a karaoke program, I use it only for DJ,ing and video'ing as it is originally intended for.

[KenKelley]

Originally Posted by bryant

No, I haven't, but I will. Curious why you ask that as I have stated before all other programs work perfectly and better and faster on this machine that deal with videos. I can even play karaoke files on vdj perfectly using their tempo, key change, along with other effects, on two players at the same time and even split the screen so you can see both; and stop and restart one or the other and move ahead or behind at any pont in the song without ever going out of sync either. Vdj is not even originally designed to use as a karaoke program, I use it only for DJ,ing and video'ing as it is originally intended for.

Bryant,

Just a shot in the dark.

We have near identical computers.

Mine does not crash and yours does.

I don't believe it is the programming.

The only thing that you and I do different is how the extended monitors are connected, yours is HDMI and mine is VGA.

Just trying to assist.

[Roy Dennis]

It seems to me that it's to do with when you use vdj, as you stated above all was going OK until you quote "I threw VDJ in the mix now and put that on. Crashed after eight songs,"

I also stated before that I don't run VDJ while Hosters running as there was a conflict on the video side for me.
I know Kod stated he runs VDJ at the same time, just wondering if he is showing video through VDJ or just using it as an audio player in which case the video conflict wouldn't occur ?

[kod]

I also stated before that I don't run VDJ while Hosters running as there was a conflict on the video side for me.
I know Kod stated he runs VDJ at the same time, just wondering if he is showing video through VDJ or just using it as an audio player in which case the video conflict wouldn't occur ?

Roy,

I "do not" ever run video's. I use VDJ for mp3 audio only!

I "only" use a Singer's monitor (on purpose), so video's are of no use to me...

[bryant]

Originally Posted by KenKelley

Bryant,

Just a shot in the dark.

We have near identical computers.

Mine does not crash and yours does.

I don't believe it is the programming.

The only thing that you and I do different is how the extended monitors are connected, yours is HDMI and mine is VGA.

Just trying to assist.

No problem, I understand and do appreciate all the advice from you, and please keep it coming.. The reason why I am thinking it has got to be something in the program is that others with other types of computers and with or without VDJ and w/o hdmi or minivga have gotten the exact same type of crash, at the very end of the song. This same laptop also works flawlessly with the verson 4 Hoster. Again, please keep the advice coming in as I do understand our computers are close relatives, although not identical.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

It seems to me that it's to do with when you use vdj, as you stated above all was going OK until you quote "I threw VDJ in the mix now and put that on. Crashed after eight songs,"

I also stated before that I don't run VDJ while Hosters running as there was a conflict on the video side for me.
I know Kod stated he runs VDJ at the same time, just wondering if he is showing video through VDJ or just using it as an audio player in which case the video conflict wouldn't occur ?

I wanted to believe that at first, too, Roy, but I found this post of mine about a monthago.


Quote:
Originally Posted by bryant
Used my new laptop for the first time on my Sunday night gig( At a Casino with two 70 inch screens facing a slot machine area high up on a stage with an audience of 100 people, and more like another 1000 in the gambling area.

Virtual DJ was never even turned on and neither was McAfee Antivirus. Well, Hoster crashed about 2 1/2 hours into the show. Had to restart Hoster. When I did, the singers's screen and two 70 inch screens showed 1/2 size vertically (okay horizontally though) and had to take a few seconds to resize to full screen. This was the first time Hoster crashed when it was the only program on and running.

The only thing different that I did try was fade in and out was 2 sec., instead of 3 sec. And remove silence's added silence was 2 sec., before and after, instead of 3 sec. At least I know that this has nothing to do with Vdj, but maybe the settings. Oh, it crashed after a hdmp3g song. So I have had crashes with all file types now.

I'm gonna go back and use Hoster only running with these settings at 3 sec. Instead of 2. So far, this combination hasn't had a crash yet after maybe 3 or 4 hundred singers total."

Also, others not using vdj have reported similar crashes.. Still hoping for a cure.

[KenKelley]

Bryant,

Another spurrious thought while shopping for a HDTV.

Is your laptop "Wireless Display" capable?

Is it enabled or disabled?

[bryant]

Originally Posted by KenKelley

Bryant,

Another spurrious thought while shopping for a HDTV.

Is your laptop "Wireless Display" capable?

Is it enabled or disabled?

I'll check, but .I think it is disabled.
That's a good thought, though.
Have you experienced in the past where wireless cause problems?

[Joe Nieves]

It's the video engine that's at fault in Hosters, it doesn't play nice with other program running at the same time..

I used Hoster with Microstudio to play tracks from a customers karaoke cd and had no issues playing from the cd in Microstudio, ....The crash only happens when you need to bring back Hoster program.... It get's scared and crashes,.... But Microstudio doesn't...

...so it seems there is something to this that has to do with the video engine in Hoster...