hoster program is closing

[Jim Sargent]

ddouglass:
I went Through the changes, made all of them. My processer is a Intel(R) core(Tm) 2 Duo cpu E8500 @3.17GHz
Ram is 2.00 GB.
So i really don't think this is the problem.
Everything worked ok on XP as far as raid goes. We will find out Wed. night if all the other changes make a differance.
Thanks Jim
P.S. will let you know if it still shuts down

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Jim Sargent

ddouglass:
I went Through the changes, made all of them. My processer is a Intel(R) core(Tm) 2 Duo cpu E8500 @3.17GHz
Ram is 2.00 GB.
So i really don't think this is the problem.
Everything worked ok on XP as far as raid goes. We will find out Wed. night if all the other changes make a differance.
Thanks Jim
P.S. will let you know if it still shuts down

That may be true but you have moved to a much larger operating system. Your 2GB is the bare minimum for Win 7 and MTU recommends 4 GB.

[kod]

You guys are not the only ones having this "Hoster Shutdown" problem. It's been haunting me for months... Fortunately, it only does it in between songs and you can start right back up!

It went away for a while and now it's back and I did nothing to my Computer in between (no upgrades, etc.)!

I'm not sure MtU "can" fix this problem because it is an intermittent problem that doesn't seen to have any rhyme or reason! I'm not saying they have not tried, but in order to fix bugs, you've gotta first catch'em!!!

I have updated/upgraded everything recommended to me and the problem still persists! One thing that I did that "seemed" to help was to quit using BA (Background Audio) altogether. When I did, that's when it seemed to go away for a while.

I've just accepted the fact that it's going to happen and I have to live with it...

[admin]

Originally Posted by kod

I'm not sure MtU "can" fix this problem because it is an intermittent problem that doesn't seen to have any rhyme or reason! I'm not saying they have not tried, but in order to fix bugs, you've gotta first catch'em!!!

I have updated/upgraded everything recommended to me and the problem still persists! One thing that I did that "seemed" to help was to quit using BA (Background Audio) altogether. When I did, that's when it seemed to go away for a while.

I've just accepted the fact that it's going to happen and I have to live with it...

You are correct that we must re-create the problem to solve it. We have fixed MANY MANY MANY intermittent problems over time with facts.

If you give us as many facts as you can such as what type of file you were playing in the Playlist before the crash, Hoster version, Windows OS, etc. then we will add it with facts from others and eventually a picture will appear and we can nail it.

Say we can't solve it and don't give us any facts and only emotions and by golly your prediction will come true! Facts please...

How many songs are in your BA folder that you open? We only show the first 200, but if you have thousands there, it could create problems. Also, what type of files (MP3, WMA, ???) are you playing in BA? Is it always the same song in BA that causes a crash?

Recently we were sent an MP3 file purchased from Amazon (they have 13 million I understand ). It uses a 151Kb compression. This is new, and was not supported by Windows Media Player not far back. It would not burn to a disc in Microstudio, and Songverter would not convert it to another format (we use the WMP SDK - Software Developers Kit - to decompress MP3 and WMA files). Once our client upgraded to our latest versions of Microstudio and Songverter, everything worked fine.

I checked your Account and you are running 431.9 so you have the latest "bug fixes". Facts can help us identify the problem.

WE HATE CRASHES!!! Thus, we WILL do everything in our power to solve them, if you work with us.

[Skybird74]

I hate to add to this.......... I LOVE B/A and bragged about using it when it first came out.... but started having problems with B/A causing crashes after 4.2, which I reported immediately. I keep updating & keep trying, but I still can't run more than 1/2 a Show before crashing .............. and this ONLY HAPPENS when running B/A. I can go all night long, including importing singers's disk, as long as I don't run B/A. I know you think it's my AMD, but others with AMD report not having problems, but then again they say they don't run B/A, sooooooooo????????????????????

[Skybird74]

Originally Posted by admin

Say we can't solve it and don't give us any facts and only emotions and by golly your prediction will come true! Facts please...

How many songs are in your BA folder that you open? We only show the first 200, but if you have thousands there, it could create problems. Also, what type of files (MP3, WMA, ???) are you playing in BA? Is it always the same song in BA that causes a crash?


WE HATE CRASHES!!! Thus, we WILL do everything in our power to solve them, if you work with us.

I neglected to add that I only have a dozen MP3 songs in the Break folder I use in B/A. I have come to the conclusion that my computer just isn't powerful enough to DO IT ALL. Like you've said before, Intel is a faster processor. The person who says they don't have any problems with their AMD doesn't import Singers Disk or run B/A and its 3.GHz. Neither do I, until I import more than a dozen Singers disks and have B/A on too that halfway through the Show it will crash (I also keep the Search & Singers windows open at the same time).

In summary, I think it comes down to computer requirements as to how many features can be run at the same time.

[Harry Reid]

Just wondering if there has been any progress about hoster closing problem. I had this problem a few times over the past couple of months. Last night it happened three time during a show. I do not run BA so I can eliminate this as a reason. I have just re-checked all of my settings and they are what is recommended for Hoster.
I am using a HP Pavilion dv7 Laptop Windows 7 os i3 CPU 4gb Ram 64 bit 550 gb Hard Drive.
My VM is set at 3055 with a max size of 4096.(Does this need changed?)
I have my music stored on my hard drive approx 16200 songs, I do not import singers disks during a show.
The problem appears ramdomly and I can re-open Hoster with out losing singers songs.
I'm not sure any of this info will help with the problem/fix, but I thought I would pass it along.
The version of Hoster I am using is 4.32
If there is additional info you need, please let me know.

[kod]

Harry,

I too am still having the same problem. It happened twice Thursday night, but I've just learned to live with it. I cannot correlate it to any particular song or any other action at the time it stops, so I just haven't continued to report it. Some shows it doesn't stop at all...

In order for them to be able fix a problem, you need to be able to pinpoint it and I can't!

The good thing is it has never stopped during a song, it only stops between songs.

I stopped using BA several months ago, but it still happens. I use Windows Media Player and it works fine for me and it can randomly play more than 200 songs on the list.

[admin]

Originally Posted by Harry Reid

Just wondering if there has been any progress about hoster closing problem. I had this problem a few times over the past couple of months. Last night it happened three time during a show. I do not run BA so I can eliminate this as a reason. I have just re-checked all of my settings and they are what is recommended for Hoster.
I am using a HP Pavilion dv7 Laptop Windows 7 os i3 CPU 4gb Ram 64 bit 550 gb Hard Drive.
My VM is set at 3055 with a max size of 4096.(Does this need changed?)
I have my music stored on my hard drive approx 16200 songs, I do not import singers disks during a show.
The problem appears ramdomly and I can re-open Hoster with out losing singers songs.
I'm not sure any of this info will help with the problem/fix, but I thought I would pass it along.
The version of Hoster I am using is 4.32
If there is additional info you need, please let me know.

If you keep the Singers and Search dialogs open (and out of your way or minimized) Hoster usually will not crash, as long as you don't open & close dialogs while running a Show.

We're aware of this, but so far have not been able to cause a crash. We've tried everything that has been reported, while running a debug version with a diagnostic program also monitoring everything that is going on. No joy yet.

[admin]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

That may be true but you have moved to a much larger operating system. Your 2GB is the bare minimum for Win 7 and MTU recommends 4 GB.

I fully agree with Dale. Win 7 is a HOG for CPU and RAM, while XP was a solid workhorse that could easily run in 2GB RAM.

Upgrade to at least 4GB.