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Old May 31st, 2013, 12:14 PM
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Re: Hoster 5.09 Has been released May 28, 2013

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Good discovery. The Delete function was not intended to be available in the Search dialog. The only way to delete songs is in the Edit Songs dialog, which has safeguards against accidental deletion, and also lists the BookIDs that have been removed from the Song Book. I have fixed this.

By the way, Delete was also appearing in the Singers List window, but it doesn't make sense there either, so I fixed this, too.
Just noticed this, isn't the delete function in the singers' list used to remove songs from the singers list. Unless I am misinterpreting this somehow, this would be a useful function, wouldn't it?
I think posting quotes like this are confusing to look back on and get out of context with the title of this thread.
You can still delete songs from the main singers list and playlist or use the edit flyout from the singers list that shows from the search. This only removes them from those list not the songs.mdb.
The delete was removed from the search dialog but there is an edit drop down there which will take you to the edit screen.
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1) First time using 5.09. Sporadically, during a song, I hear a buzz that lasts for about 1 second. After that, the music and lyrics go out of sync. I set the sync to -.75 and all is well. If the buzz occurs during the same song, I have to set the sync to -1.5 and it's fine.
2) When doing a search while a song is playing, both displays (mine & the singers') flash. This again is sporadic. I've done all the updates. These conditions are very annoying to my customers and myself. Any ideas?
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1) First time using 5.09. Sporadically, during a song, I hear a buzz that lasts for about 1 second. After that, the music and lyrics go out of sync. I set the sync to -.75 and all is well. If the buzz occurs during the same song, I have to set the sync to -1.5 and it's fine.
2) When doing a search while a song is playing, both displays (mine & the singers') flash. This again is sporadic. I've done all the updates. These conditions are very annoying to my customers and myself. Any ideas?
Have you played around with the Tools/Audio controls, There are 2 lots of settings there, a prevent audio drops, that I believe the default is 10 but I have mine at 6 and below that a setting for Audio and Display
I have mine set to normal for both display and audio but play around with these settings see if it helps.
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I set the Audio Dropouts setting from 2 to 6. The audio and display settings were set to above normal and I reset them to normal. The screen flashing only happens when a song is playing and I do a search. I will let you know if there were any buzzing/out of sync problems after tonight.
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Although I didn't have any crashing problems, I am still experiencing screen flashing during a search, and that sporadic buzzing during a song that throws my sync out of wack.
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Although I didn't have any crashing problems, I am still experiencing screen flashing during a search, and that sporadic buzzing during a song that throws my sync out of wack.
Have these 2 problems only started with this 5.09 version ?
Which version did you upgrade from ?

Just to see if it makes a difference, see if you get the same problem if you switch tempo mode Off. Tools/Tempo Mode choose normal mode. Tempo will no longer function but just let us know if that helps.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 04:47 AM
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Although I didn't have any crashing problems, I am still experiencing screen flashing during a search, and that sporadic buzzing during a song that throws my sync out of wack.
One other thing you might want to check, new in 5.09, when you start Hoster it should automatically set your power setting to Hoster's own, if you click the power icon on the taskbar you should get a pop up window showing "select a power plan" which if Hoster is not in use will show it using your old power settings but as soon as you start Hoster should change to "MTU Hoster" closing Hoster should return this setting to your old existing setting.
If that is not happening check your Hoster Tools/options at the bottom is a checkbox "Use the MTU power scheme (Recommended)" if that is not ticked that may be why you are experiencing problems.

The one other point, are you using a USB mixer ?

If so try running it without the usb connection, run a lead from your headphone/speaker out to the mixer and see if that solves it.
If it does then the problem is related to that and seems to be a latency problem as Bryant might chime in about

You could also check out your playback settings, by opening Hoster/Tools/Audio settings press the black manage audio cards button select the sound card your using for playback press advanced tab. What bitrate settings are you showing ? set it to 16 bit 44100hz cd quality and untick the 2 exclusive mode boxes press apply and OK.
Now select enhancement tab and select disable all sound effects.
If you have a tab for Dolby open that and untick any boxes there press apply and OK.
Now see if the problems persist.
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Power settings are set to Hoster. That's fine. I am going from the headphone/speaker out to the mixer. As far as the sound card goes, it only lists two and they are Speaker/Headphones and Independant (R.T.C.) Headphones. The first being checked. Bitrate was set to 48000 DVD quality. Changed it to 16 bit 44100hz CD quality and unchecked the boxes. It started with 5.08 and got a little worse in 5.09. The 2 problem persist.
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Did you get any message that some songs were not imported ?
It may be that they are in the quarantine folder.
Open Hoster go to Tools/Hoster Data folder and look in the quarantine folder. Files that error now go into here.
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What about disc indexing? What should it be set to and could that be a problem?
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Power settings are set to Hoster. That's fine. I am going from the headphone/speaker out to the mixer. As far as the sound card goes, it only lists two and they are Speaker/Headphones and Independant (R.T.C.) Headphones. The first being checked. Bitrate was set to 48000 DVD quality. Changed it to 16 bit 44100hz CD quality and unchecked the boxes. It started with 5.08 and got a little worse in 5.09. The 2 problem persist.
I'm out of ideas, the only other things I can think of are check for later drivers for audio and video cards.
Has anyone else got suggestion for this ?
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Re: Hoster 5.09 Has been released May 28, 2013

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1) First time using 5.09. Sporadically, during a song, I hear a buzz that lasts for about 1 second. After that, the music and lyrics go out of sync. I set the sync to -.75 and all is well. If the buzz occurs during the same song, I have to set the sync to -1.5 and it's fine.
2) When doing a search while a song is playing, both displays (mine & the singers') flash. This again is sporadic. I've done all the updates. These conditions are very annoying to my customers and myself. Any ideas?
A few shots in the dark with this one.....

First, try wiggling the cable running from the headphone jack on your computer to the sound board to ensure you don't have a bad cable or headphone jack while a song is playing to see if you can duplicate the symptom. If you duplicate the symptom, replace the cable and try again. If you duplicate again, it is most likely the headphone jack. If you determine that the cable and headphone jack are ok keep going with the below.

Is your Dell still under warranty? If so you may want to contact Dell so they can talk you through a hardware check to ensure all the chips, power supply, and battery are functioning properly. (since these issues, I think you mentioned in another post, started with Hoster 5.08)

If not...

Assuming that all updates have been accomplished and your system registry has no issues.

The Buzz and the subsequent out of sync makes me think there is a hardware issue.

Usually when I hear a buzz in my pa system it is caused by 1 of 2 things, a faulty ground (bad cable between the computer and sound board to the headphone jack on the computer itself) or a computer power supply doesn't have an in-line magnet. The out of sync issue may be caused by a cpu interrupt of sorts.

With that being said, I suspect your power supply may be the culprit. If it is not functioning properly you could be operating intermittently on battery power (power supply arching inside causing the buzz and shutting down momentarily) and I'm thinking Hoster is sensitive to that when it wants to run on "Full" power (power supply connected). I would suggest trying another power supply (borrow one if you can, assuming you don't have another laying around) and give that a try. If that does not fix the issue, my next guess would be the battery.

One more thing if all the above checks ok,

Since you are connected to a sound board there could be something going on such as a back feed or internal short or something. My particular sound board had to go back to the factory to replace the internal power supply which was causing various issues with all my channels (hums, hissssses, and just plain not working).

Hope something from the above resolves your issue.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 09:07 AM
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Try solving one problem at a time the BUZZING
Like KenKelley describes.
In my experience with a similar problem:
From the headphone /speaker out connection - 1 time it was the cable and actually it was more than 1 cable (especially RadioShack stuff).
Another laptop it was the port itself and a cable.
I started using a Behringer UCA222 from my USB port. That stopped that buzzing.

Also there is always a problem with the power source from where you plug into for supply. All buildings are different. Some wired correctly and some over taxed.
If you have nothing is playing and you have the buzzing it could be the supply problem or a power supply from the laptop, external HD, wireless mic, etc. At times it can be very loud when nothing is playing but the music will somewhat drown it out as I have had.

I'd do a check from start to end of checking all cables and connections. If you are using a power strip, try a different one. I've had power supplies hum/buzz when plugged into the same power strip as the laptop. But maybe, like my problem, the buzzing only happened after touching the laptop, pressure touching near out port and than it stopped.

Play music in another program. If the buzz goes away when playing a MP3 in Windows Media player than you can narrow the problem.

With that problem figured out the "out of synch" must be your software setting or the laptop hardware. Have you posted the brand of the video card that you're using? You said it was happening somewhat in 5.08 too?

I have noticed that when I used the out port with my Windows 7 and I plug into it, the laptop ask me if I want to use the Headphone setting. I click yes. That cause a blip in the music and if the cable is causing intermittent connection that program is intermitting "asking" each time the cable tries to connect and that maybe putting yours out of synch.
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A bad cable could certainly cause the buzzing, however it wouldn't interfere with the sync IF it is just the cable. It sound more hardware related - possibly in the sound card.
I had similar issues years ago when the motherboard of my PC started to go bad. I would get all kinds of random buzzes & graphic issues - both swipes and artifacts. Then one day the songs just stopped playing even though the computer was still up and running. It had nothing to do with Hoster.
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A bad cable could certainly cause the buzzing, however it wouldn't interfere with the sync IF it is just the cable. It sound more hardware related - possibly in the sound card.
I had similar issues years ago when the motherboard of my PC started to go bad. I would get all kinds of random buzzes & graphic issues - both swipes and artifacts. Then one day the songs just stopped playing even though the computer was still up and running. It had nothing to do with Hoster.
I agree and have had similar problems with another older laptop but not with Hoster.

On my new Windows 7, when I plug into the headphone "jack out", a window appears and ask if this is what I want to connect to. Maybe the draw on the computer throws things off. But if it were intermittent, that could throw Hoster off. Again not the programs fault.

On my older Windows 7, nothing is asked when I connect but if the sound is interrupted while Hoster is playing a song, like a cable being removed, Hoster stops playing immediately.
Strange but true.

I was just throwing stuff out as experienced problems that were unforeseen.
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MackieRocks,
Please try this:

Go to Tools\Tempo Play mode make sure to change this to tempo mode, instead of Normal play mode. Please let me know if this helps.
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Go to Help\Check for Updates version 5.09.02 was released today! 4 Minor items were found and fixed.
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I have 2 laptops running Hosterlite 5.07 that still are within the year of upgrades, but of coarse Lite is no longer available. When I check for updates I get this:
"A new version is available as a free upgrade for you
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Everything you love about Video Hoster just got better... And Easier!
Upgrade to The Best Karaoke Software Ever, Video Hoster 5.09.02!
Our Software Development Team has been working tirelessly with our amazing Beta testers and have developed the most comprehensive version of Video Hoster to date! Hoster has been made easier, smarter, and more efficient. We have not released this many New Features in YEARS!
The bugs have been fixed! We have created the most stable version of our flagship product ever! We have fixed ALL of the known crashes! We optimized the code used to build the Songs Database to make it 4x FASTER! There are many more fixes, visit the Hoster Product Page for details by clicking the Tell Me More Button.
Our customers ask for new features and we deliver! Our Development Team knows that the best way to continue to produce a great product is to keep our focus on you, our customers. Whenever you have ideas to make Video Hoster better, we listen and make your best suggestions a reality. Sometimes this is an easy change, others a feat of endurance. We consider all of the requests that come in and this time we have included the most New Features in many years!
Click the Tell me More Button to read what users are saying about this new version! Click the Download Now button to download this new version."
When I click on the upgrade button It is not free as stated, It should tell me it is available for purchase if it is not free. Can someone explain?
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Well the problem turned out to be the laptop. I switched to a different laptop and the software is running perfectly! Now I have to figure out where the hardware problem ls. Thanks to all that responded. Hoster is still #1.
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