Vob & Mpg not playing on ext. desktop

[Chad Slater]

Is anyone or has anyone had a problem with .vob & .mpg files not playing on the extended desktop in Hoster? When I pull the window over to the main computer screen and play the files, they show up. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!

[ddouglass]

Chad I think there have been some past threads on this with fix actions. Off the top of my head I cannot remember what it was. I'll try to figure it out again and get back to you later tonight.

[Chad Slater]

thank you... I have had issues with this for awhile now but have been playing .avi and .mp4 which work fine but would like to be able to play my entire collection.

Thanks!

[ddouglass]

Only thing I can think of is you may not have current codecs for those two formats though I am not sure that is correct.
What operating system are you using and what version of Hoster?

[ddouglass]

Ok Chad. I think I was right. Try reading this thread and see if the link that MTUSupport has in his post is what is needed.

http://forum.mtu.com/showthread.php?...eo+files+black

[aznetbear]

Originally Posted by Chad Slater

thank you... I have had issues with this for awhile now but have been playing .avi and .mp4 which work fine but would like to be able to play my entire collection.

Thanks!

download the k-lite codec pack and configure appropriately for your version of WMP.

try this link: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail...k/1080441198/1

[Chad Slater]

System
Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard Model HP Pavilion dv8 Notebook PC Total amount of system memory 4.00 GB RAM System type 64-bit operating system Number of processor cores 4

Storage
Total size of hard disk(s) 465 GB Disk partition (C 216 GB Free (450 GB Total) Disk partition (D 2 GB Free (15 GB Total) Media drive (E CD/DVD

Graphics
Display adapter type NVIDIA GeForce GT 230M Total available graphics memory 2811 MB Dedicated graphics memory 1024 MB Dedicated system memory 0 MB Shared system memory 1787 MB Display adapter driver version 8.16.11.8906 Primary monitor resolution 1920x1080 DirectX version DirectX 10

I have windows 7 and the latest version of hoster

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Only thing I can think of is you may not have current codecs for those two formats though I am not sure that is correct.
What operating system are you using and what version of Hoster?

[ddouglass]

I see one possibility in that list. The Nvidea GT 230M driver. A lot of people have had problems with the latest drivers for this card. Go to Nvidea and get one of the older drivers for this card and see if that doesn't improve video display.
I would also get the latest K-lite codecs.

[Chad Slater]

ok, I will check it out! thanks

[KenKelley]

What was the final outcome with attempting to play the .vob files on the extended desk top as I am having the same problem with 2 new Dell machines (1 with NVIDIA and 1 with Radeon). I have attempted the K-Lite Codec Pack to no avail.

[ddouglass]

What version of Hoster?
Unless you have an unusual version of VOB file the K-Lite Codecs should take care of this at least for the Radeon.
Also be sure you get any hardware updates for those two cards directly from Dell as the ones from Microsoft are normally wrong or out of date.

[KenKelley]

I should have put a little more info here. Also, I have turned in a ticket and MTU is thinking Bug because of my situation (not many folks use .vob video files) but after seeing this post, maybe you all have come up with a work around or remedy MTU isn't aware of.

1st Computer: Dell XPS 1701
OS: Windows 7 Professional
Memory: 8gig
Video: Nvidia (3gig memory)
Hoster: 4.32.12 (with all required Windows settings)

2nd Computer: Dell Inspiron 17R
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
Memory: 6gig
Video: Radieon (1gig memory)
Hoster: 4.32.12 (with all required Windows settings)

VOB files are copied to my hard drive from "Pioneer Karaoke PDL Series" DVDs (about 650 and I have another 100 files copied from Ubest DVDs). These files worked flawlessly when I was running an HP with 2gig ram, shared video memory, Windows XP Home (Media Edition). I had tried the K-lite codecs on that laptop but discovered ffdshow worked better (it allowed for the mux button to operate for these particular files, K-lite would not).

I have installed Windows 7 Codec Pack from a site that Microsoft recommends for codec updates and now the Mux button works properly on the 2 new computers. The video however will only play in the singers display when it is on the laptop screen.....

I have updated both computers with all the software, driver, and bios updates from dell as well as all Windows 7 updates.

I have to say, the computers are great, Hoster 4.32.12 is even better than ever when any other file is played through it; CD+G, MP3+G, .DAT, wmv, etc with all other video file types being played showing up on the singers display and the mux button working properly weather or not I have a codec pack installed.

When I utilize an Insta Button to play a .vob file, the video not only shows on the singers display on the extended monitor but also on the preview display on the Hoster console! (Not in sync however) Never saw that before.

Just cannot quite figure out why the video from a .vob file disapears from the singers display when the display is moved to the extended screen.

One other thing, I have attempted to run non-karaoke .vob files as I would a karaoke .vob with the same results.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you might be able to render!

[Roy Dennis]

I don't know why you are having this problem but just to let you know that .vob files are playing correct on my Windows 7 system.
I have both ffdshow and k-light on my system. Have you tried tweaking the settings in K-light tweak tool, if all goes wrong you can always tick the box for reset settings of codec filters.
When I'm playing a .vob file I get 3 icons showing on the task bar, Haali media splitter, ffdshow video decoder & ffdshow audio decoder.
I attach a picture showing the settings from the codec tweak tool, it shows 3 pictures because I have to scroll it and can't display all the settings with one shot.

I get to this box from Start programes/k-light codec pack/Tools/codec tweak tool from the box that opens select "Manage prefered souce filters" and see if your settings match mine.

Another thing you can try as it works on mine, rename one the the files by just changing the extension to .mp4. ignore the warning, you can always change it back.

The only other thing that may be different is my vob files are music videos not lyrick only files.

[KenKelley]

Roy,

I will go back tonight and attempt to duplicate the settings or change the file name as you have suggested.

My .vob files are also Music Videos (they are the DVD verson of the 12" Pioneer Laser Karaoke disks).

A couple of things I neglected to mention in my previous post is that this only happens when I attempt to play the files from the play list. Also something that seems new is these files will play in Windows Media Player on both the laptop screen and the extended screen. Under Windows XP, the video portion would disappear when Windows Media Player was moved to the extended screen.

One more thing, the operating systems on both Dell computers are 64bit.

I shall post of what worked and what did not.

Thanks in advance!

Ken

[KenKelley]

Roy,

Unfortunately all that you suggested did not work.

[ddouglass]

Kelley,
Since we have not been able to come up with a solution here, I would suggest that you put in a Support Email Ticket on the main web page for MTU. Maybe Support can figure out the problem.
Just one more question. How did you get the laser disc files to the computer?

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by kelleykd01

Roy,

Unfortunately all that you suggested did not work.

When you say "did not work" were you able to check if the settings were the same as in my attachment, or was the problem you were unable to find the settings?

[KenKelley]

Roy,

All settings were identical to yours.

I have turned in a Ticket for the problem and MTU suspects a Bug in Hoster with regards to .vob files. However why the .vob type of files work on your machine and not mine with the same settings is a puzzle.

There is one more thing that I will attempt tonight and that is to connect a second monitor to the HDMI port and see what happens (the Hoster playlist shows the video file (.vob) as being HD).

There is one other thing that popped up last night. I started playing one of the files in Windows Media Player (WMP) and checked to properties of the file in WMP, under the Media Usage Rights tab "The Media Usage Rights are missing from this file". Even though I have the originia DVDs, the usage rights don't seem to convey when I copy the files to the hard drive for ease of use in Hoster (it takes what seems forever for a video file to load if I import from the DVD). I am wondering if that could also have something to do with it.

I shall keep trying until I hear from MTU.

Thanks!

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by kelleykd01

Roy,

There is one more thing that I will attempt tonight and that is to connect a second monitor to the HDMI port and see what happens (the Hoster playlist shows the video file (.vob) as being HD).!

I think the HD you are seeing is refering to Hard drive file not High definition.

Originally Posted by kelleykd01

There is one other thing that popped up last night. I started playing one of the files in Windows Media Player (WMP) and checked to properties of the file in WMP, under the Media Usage Rights tab "The Media Usage Rights are missing from this file". Even though I have the originia DVDs, the usage rights don't seem to convey when I copy the files to the hard drive for ease of use in Hoster (it takes what seems forever for a video file to load if I import from the DVD). I am wondering if that could also have something to do with it.

I shall keep trying until I hear from MTU.

Thanks!

You don't really want media usage rights to be enabled as that would restrict your use to use it on other computers. That normally comes about if you rip music disks as wma files best to stick with mp3 in the case of Audio ripping. Your second point about them taking a long time to load from DVD is normal.

From reading your messages again, it seems you have just copied the .vob file straight from the DVD, this could possibly be a problem as the .vob files direct from a DVD contain other data. I think you would be better of ripping them from the DVD to hard drive via a dvd ripping software. when you say they play in media player do you mean your hard drive versions or straight from the disc.

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by kelleykd01

I have installed Windows 7 Codec Pack from a site that Microsoft recommends for codec updates and now the Mux button works properly on the 2 new computers. The video however will only play in the singers display when it is on the laptop screen.....

Are you saying you can get the video to play on the singer display on the extended screen? And not on the kj display? If so, video files will not display on the host computer as of yet, only displays on the singer display.