Lyrics and graphics showing up on top of each other

[kiwisinger]

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What is the refresh rate set to in the secondary monitor properties?
60hz

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Also check the back of the TV as it may have a refresh rate setting listed (not always but some do). For TV's it should be either 60 or 75 Hz.

Ummm...it says 240v - 50hz?. Is that the same thing?

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You are going from S-Video on card to S-Video into a converter then RCA from converter to TV RCA. Is this correct?

Yes, the "S-Video to RCA" converter is a one piece plug. I then run a RCA to RCA lead to the TV.



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Have you tried an S-Video straight from card to an RCA (cable making conversion) into TV?

No.

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I sure wish you could draw a diagram of your system and attach it to a post. It would make this a bit easier.

Ok Iv tried to draw my computer to tv setup....hopefully you can see my labelling etc??

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by kiwisinger

no Im not importing from discs. I have cdg files on my hard drive that Iv paid for and downloaded from a web sight.

When I play all 3 types of files: .kma /.cdg / .dat they play perfectly on both primary and secondary screens on hoster.

When I play the .dat & .kma files they play perfectly on the tv screen.

As soon as I play a .cdg file and move the screen over to the extended tv screen, it looks like a mess

Yes you are right as far as the graphics aren't clearing when the lyrics show up....then those lyrics aren't clearing either and so on.

Judging by the first paragraph I'm assuming that when you say ".cdg" you actually are referring to mp3g's that you are loading into the playlist using the MP3G tab at the top of the playlist, correct?

When you say that you move the screen over to the TV are you moving it by double clicking the screen or are you using your mouse to slide it over?
Which begets the question of why are you moving it at all instead of just having it set to open on the TV in the first place?

I've tried recreating your scenario with kma's (all 5 types) and mp3g's, zips and CDG imported from singer disk and with all of them the screen messes up in the process of moving them with the mouse. Brands such as Soundchoice clear right up after the first screen. Chartbuster doesn't refresh their screen between lyric changes so they stay messed up.
Unless I'm totally missing something the answer to this of is don't move the screen, double click it to get it on your TV.

[mindonstrike]

[quote=kiwisinger;61917][quote]
What is the refresh rate set to in the secondary monitor properties?
60hz

Also check the back of the TV as it may have a refresh rate setting listed (not always but some do). For TV's it should be either 60 or 75 Hz.

Ummm...it says 240v - 50hz?. Is that the same thing?

I would think if this was an issue you be getting bad graphics for everything or at least some nasty horizontal lines.50 and 60 hertz are definately 2 different things. Is there a way on your card setting to change the refresh rate to 50?
Perhaps some of the other non-60hz users could chime in on this.

[ddouglass]

[quote=mindonstrike;61921][quote=kiwisinger;61917]

What is the refresh rate set to in the secondary monitor properties?
60hz

[color=purple]I would think if this was an issue you be getting bad graphics for everything or at least some nasty horizontal lines.50 and 60 hertz are definately 2 different things. Is there a way on your card setting to change the refresh rate to 50?
Perhaps some of the other non-60hz users could chime in on this.

Sam that isn't quite the same, so ignore this Kiwisinger. The 240V - 50Hz is you power in from the wall. The 60Hz refresh deals with the rate the screen is refreshed to make it display.
Sam may be right about how you move the screen. Actually once you move it to the TV it should stay until you move it again, even if you shutdown Hoster and re-open it the display should be exactly where you left it. The only one that may give you problems is getting the vcd (dat) screen to be in the right place and Sam can help you with that.
So, bottom line....try double clicking the screen to jump it to TV and see if that works.

By the way your cable setup is ok. However down the line you may run into problems with that because of the extra connection. You might look to pick up a single cable with S-video to RCA. That would eliminate one possible future trouble spot.

[mindonstrike]

Also check the back of the TV as it may have a refresh rate setting listed (not always but some do). For TV's it should be either 60 or 75 Hz.

Ummm...it says 240v - 50hz?. Is that the same thing?

With all due respect, New Zealand uses the PAL TV format which is a screen refresh rate of 50hz. The American standard is NTSC which is 60hz.

But like I mentioned before if this was an issue I would think the picture quality would be poor all the time, not just under certain circumstances.

[ddouglass]

What he was quoting from the back of the TV was the power input though. I am willing to bet he has a multiple use TV and it is set to NTSB rather than PAL in which case it would be a 60 Hz refresh and that would make his video card settings correct.

[admin]

Kiwisinger, try using Hoster's Import Tracks > Import hard drive files command. I'm unclear whether you have MP3+G or ZIP files (which contain MP3 and CDG files with the same name).

If you have thousands of MP3+G or ZIP files (you called them CDG files), then you should import/convert them as KMA files so they appear in your Songs Database which allows quickly adding them for your Singers, and they print in your Song Book. Try doing this and let us know what happens.

TRY THIS: In the Import hard drive files screen, select either MP3G or ZIP, depending on what you have that you will test with, and follow the instructions to import a few of these into KMA format. I'd name them something you will remember, or, better yet, import them into a new folder that you can easily delete if the test fails. FYI: When you create a new folder in the Import hard drive files screen, it is AUTOMATICALLY added to the Tools menu Build Songs Database list so its files will be used in the future. The imported files are also AUTOMATICALLY added to your Songs.mdb Database for you.

Then, go to Hoster's main screen, and in the Add Tracks group, use the BookID button, or Brand button, or Search button to locate one of your just imported KMA files, and add it to the playlist, and play it.

IF THAT FAILS: Please attach one of your ZIP files to your post in this Thread so we can diagnose what is different with your files.

QUESTION: Where did you buy these files? We have never run into this problem before. Dale did have an excellent point that Sound Choice periodically embeds a "clear screen" command in their Karaoke disc files, where Chartbuster never does a "clear screen". What you have bought may not have "clear screen" commands either.

Sam's point of double clicking the Singer's Display (described in the manual under Display Screens in the Table of Contents), is also valid. There is less visual "damage" done when you double click the screen to the second display. However, doing this will prevent your Video window (plays .dat and other video files) from appearing on the second display. However, it might be useful to try this for your testing.

I have talked to our engineering and support leaders and we have no reason why this is happening. That is why we want to see one of your files that shows this problem. We could buy a file from your source, but then we really don't have the "identical" file that you have; they may have changed the downloaded files.

One other point: Be sure your TV is turned on BEFORE you power up your computer, or the video card will force itself to single-display mode.

Looking for your test results.