I've got PROBLEMS!!

[KaraokeDj38030]

Originally Posted by gators66

Unfortunately, I dont have the 4.03 app. as you mentioned. When I upgraded to 4.04 it overwrites 4.03 and I cant find it anywhere. I purchased the hoster lite 4.03 with 2 appl and have put them on two laptops. Is there anyway I can get 4.03 back on my main laptop(hp vista)
Thanks

Log into your account on Mtu, under your account it should have the programs you purchased and your codes for that purchase there should be no problem converting back if you purchase the 4.03 and did not do the 4.03 upgrade. Or contact Dale he should be able to tell you how to get back to 4.03.

[Skybird74]

Originally Posted by KaraokeDj38030

Log into your account on Mtu, under your account it should have the programs you purchased and your codes for that purchase there should be no problem converting back if you purchase the 4.03 and did not do the 4.03 upgrade. Or contact Dale he should be able to tell you how to get back to 4.03.

You should have 4.03 save in your Downloads folder. If you have 4.03 Lite, then you were only able to install on 1 computer.
You can also do a "System Restore" to before you installed 4.04.

Why do you think 4.03 works better than 4.04?

[Lonman]

Unless when the option to run or save the download code came up & you hit "RUN" instead of "SAVE", it shouldn't have overwritten the previous download as they are named 2 different files. It will only overwrite if the file name is the same. If you hit "run" instead of save, then it will just run & overwrite the previous version during the upgrade. Always SAVE the downloads!

[Kobesdad]

Why do you think 4.03 works better than 4.04?[/quote]

For me it's pretty simple 4.02 was a nightmare then the old player was put into 4.03 and everything worked again. Now 4.04 takes much longer to load and can't play a karaoke file (any type hdcdg hdmp3 etc.) in full screen.

So if it actually works then that's better to me.

[Skybird74]

Are you referring to ""(any type hdcdg hdmp3 etc.)" - song you are Adding to the Playlist -or- your "KMA's" that only show on the Playlist as that "type"?

What do you mean by "full screen" ? Do you mean the Singer's Screen that shows up on a second Display, or you can't get a full screen on your monitor?

[Kobesdad]

These are all my KMA files that I am trying to play on one screen. My laptop is what I use and 98% of the time I use just the laptop no additional screen as I am an entertainer not so much a Host.

If I play a song i.e. Deep in the Heart of Texas by Bing Crosby,the initial lyrics display is a small cropped window in the upper right corner.If I try to make this Full Screen by double clicking or by dragging one corner (either or) the music begins to stutter. With each stutter the audio drops out but the lyrics continue to shade.When the audio comes back in the lyrics are sweeping ahead of the song.
The program will play audio without dropouts. The problem lies somewhere in drawing the lyrics if you will.

Back to Bing, Deep in the Heart of Texas from Legends, this song has a long intro and a long instrumental break.During the intro or the instrumental break with Full screen there are no drop outs it is only when the song attempts to load the new line of lyrics.

I have tried several different songs and none can play straight through with the screen enlarged. But as I stated the drop out occurs with the loading of each lyrics screen to sweep.

Hope I described this well enough and thanks for the input.
Chuck

[Skybird74]

That is a problem I've never had. In the Tools menu, there is a change that can be made if you are having problems with 4.04. I've also read several posts on the forum with various fixes for audio dropouts as well as something in the Manual about it. I'm afraid that's the best I can do. I'm sure Jim or Dale will read this and be able to give you better advice.

[Kobesdad]

Well, I no it's strange but also very disenchanting. I've been using MTU products for several years now and never seen such a mess.I do have a support ticket in and have received a couple responses back but since we were coming up on the weekend I have to be the patient and wait for normal hours to resume. Thanks so much for trying to help.
Chuck

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by Kobesdad

If I try to make this Full Screen by double clicking or by dragging one corner (either or) the music begins to stutter.

Only resize the Show Display when a song isn't running in Hoster.


Back to Bing, Deep in the Heart of Texas from Legends, this song has a long intro and a long instrumental break.During the intro or the instrumental break with Full screen there are no drop outs it is only when the song attempts to load the new line of lyrics.

I have tried several different songs and none can play straight through with the screen enlarged. But as I stated the drop out occurs with the loading of each lyrics screen to sweep.

Hope I described this well enough and thanks for the input.
Chuck

Hey Chuck,
Have you tried Dale's suggestion? Manually resize the show display (without a song playing) to a size that's big enough to read but small enough to reduce the load on the video side of things. If this does not help, use 3.40 or unistall 4.04 and go back to the latest version of Hoster you have that works. 3.40 should work fine.

Be sure your video card driver is updated and you have all windows custom updates.

I hope this helps.

Jim

[Kobesdad]

Hey Jim,

Well first of all 4.03 was a dream come true when the old player was introduced my problems went away. Now 4.04 presented a new problem right out uf the gate. I have been upgrading right along and one of the first solutions a few versions ago was in fact updating my drivers.It was not easy to get them from Acer but I finally broke down and got a program that made all my drivers available to me.

Sorry so long winded but the short answer is yes I have all updates and updated drivers for video, audio you name it.

I can use about one quarter of my screen but that realy doesn't make alot of sense to me. Every code change seems to have a new problem.
I like to go full screen and have the singers display active with 2 lines so I can see the title of the next song in my progam and introduce it.Also very helpful when my wife is on the job so she can see what her next song is etc.

Thanks again for the input

Chuck

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by Kobesdad

I can use about one quarter of my screen but that realy doesn't make alot of sense to me. Every code change seems to have a new problem.
I like to go full screen and have the singers display active with 2 lines so I can see the title of the next song in my progam and introduce it.Also very helpful when my wife is on the job so she can see what her next song is etc.

Thanks again for the input

Chuck

Chuck,
I play guitar and used Hoster 4.04 to run my tracks (karaoke) this past Friday and Satuday night with no issues (XP ). I know what you mean about being able to see the Show Display to keep up with the show. When I add a song to my "Guitar" playlist, I enter the Key and Capo information in the singer name column. It's useless if I can't see it.

All of us windows users will have to adjust to Vista, like it or not. Bill's people in their infante wisdom released vista before it was stable. It's still not stable to this date.

Again, go back to 4.03 and you should be okay.

Jim

[Kobesdad]

Hey Jim,

Couldn't help but comment on this one.I am only a vocalist and haven't really put the time into learning to play any of my guitars.That being said I do know a lot of musicians and thay all tell me that the hardest thing to do is to play along with pre-recorded music. So Kudos to you my friend because in my humble opinion that is a God given talent.
One of my keyboard playing friends always stresses how difficult it is to play with his midi files because of latency issues but he plays just fine to me.

Thanks again for adressing my issues. Yeah 4.03 will have to be the one for now.Don't really want to invest in a newer laptop because of Vista. It may have been misunderstood but I am running XP pro.

Chuck

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by Kobesdad

Hey Jim,

That being said I do know a lot of musicians and thay all tell me that the hardest thing to do is to play along with pre-recorded music. So Kudos to you my friend because in my humble opinion that is a God given talent.

You are so correct and I thank GOD for the blessing.


Thanks again for adressing my issues. Yeah 4.03 will have to be the one for now.Don't really want to invest in a newer laptop because of Vista. It may have been misunderstood but I am running XP pro.

Chuck

Thanks Chuck, that's a nice thing to say. I just got off the road and I'm a little tired. I tried to digest all of the posts before I replied and missed the fact that you were using XPpro. Sorry for the confusion.

Jim

[scottccook]

It seems to me that if MTU is having so many problems with getting the program to work on both XP and Vista, they would come up with a program that works with XP, and a seperate program that works with Vista, kinda like PC and MAC. I am not a computer wizzard, so I may not even know what I am talking about, just thinking outloud.

[Skybird74]

This was already suggested to MTU in the past. However, everything states that 4.04 fixed those problems & will work now on both XP & Vista. Vista problems now seem to be individual computer-related, from everything I've been reading on this Forum.

[scottccook]

well i guess they will get it figured out, they always do.

[gators66]

just wanted to update and thank everyone who tried helping me with 4.04 problems. I luckily found 4.03 on my laptop and reinstalled it and I'm happy to report everything is back to normal. I had to give up on 4.04 because it was driving me crazy and I'm not very computer literate. Thanks again for everyones suggestions and I hope vista and 4.04 can one day co-exist!

[Bonniej]

I'm with you Gator, I went back to 4.03, Guess I can do without all the
hassel in 4.04. Seems there is an awful lot of us having problems with this
upgrade. I didn't let it give me a headache, after reading all the posts of the lyrics not being in sinc on Vista and me having the same problem, I just decided I'll go in safe mode with 4.03 What I don't understand is with all the beta testers out there, nobody had these problems with the lyrics.
Guess we'll just have to wait for the next upgrade and see what happens.
Nevertheless I am happy with 4.03 Works for me.

[Skybird74]

I've been reading all the posts since before 4.0x came out.

Users did report out-of-sync lyrics with 4.03 and key change issues. 4.04 came out to FIX both of those.
The main problems I've seen reported with 4.04 are audio dropouts and display issues. I haven't seen anyone say anything about lyrics.

I find it interesting that you aren't having any of the problems that people reported with 4.03, especially using Vista. I am very interested in how well 4.03 is working for you with Vista, as I haven't upgraded mine yet. I'm still trying to decide whether to install 4.03 or 4.04

[Bonniej]

Sky, No I didn't have any of the problems that others had with 4.3, so that is why I didn't hesitate to upgrade to 4.4 I was really surprised when
I played the first song and it was way behind the music and then would try to catch up in the last line, I messed around with it a little and changed my windows setting to windows classic like someone had suggested in one of the posts, that did help a bit but not enough still had lyrics out of sync. I would tell you to go ahead and update, and see just make sure you don't lose your other copy that is working correct. You can always uninstall 4.4 and go back.