importing singers disc

[billyo]

i did a show last night and i don't usually import singers disc,and it took me by surprise that importing singers disc was not the way it used to be but anyway.. i have this one regular singer that brings in her own disc, i imported one of her songs while someone was singing, the song that was playing went out of sync, after importing the singers disc, the song playing went back to normal..just wondering if anyone had experienced this before...but anyway 4.11 got me going again..

[ddouglass]

Have seen this sometimes too. Did a clean-up with System Mechanic and problem cleared. as usual the more going on the more likely problems like this pop up.
What is different about Importing Singer's Discs? The only thing that changed the location of the button.

[billyo]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Have seen this sometimes too. Did a clean-up with System Mechanic and problem cleared. as usual the more going on the more likely problems like this pop up.
What is different about Importing Singer's Discs? The only thing that changed the location of the button.

yup the button location, took me a while to find it, since like said i don't realy import singers disc, my singer offered me to import her songs to my hhd, so that this would never happen again, i told her that i can't caused of legality issue, but anyway i started importing her songs at the very end of every song that was playing.

[dspins]

Atm if a singer wants to use there own disc, I plug in a small mp3 player for a few minutes, and let the people dance while it is loading. Then reset the computer and restart hoster. After that plug the computer back in and start singers again. It is a major headache yes, but you can do it.

Myself, I try and just ask singers to come see me after the show and I can load anything they might have that for some reason I do not.

[ddouglass]

Just to point out the obvious, if you don't own it then you cannot import it legally. It may be a convience for them to have you do this but it is not legal for you to have it on your drive except temporarily during a show.

[Musicman51]

I heard this use to be a problem with earlier versions. But hoster has always imported singers disc why someone was singing already. Even with me adoing it. At least onest a week i get out my laptop and just use hoster and test everything out like importing singers disc while one is playing. hummm...maybe thats why i keep my laptop and hoster so simple and uncludered...things just seem to run more smoothly.

[ddouglass]

I agree. Nothing extra on the computer over what is needed to keep Hoster running smoothly. No extra programs installed except for things that assist such as an anti-virus program and a system clean-up program.

[billyo]

it's been a while since i imported a singers disc, i think it was v3.16, it's just last week that i had to, since my regular singer bought a brand new disc, but anyway i also noticed that when importing the disc the music stop for a few sec. then it starts back -up, but anyway i'm not sure if it the problem existed before with the prior version, like i said i dont really import singers disc, but anyway everything is good if i have to import again i'll just wait till the song playing is almost over....not a big deal..

[WaltR]

My Hoster screen goes blank when I import a cd but the singers monitor and sound keep going without any problems. This has happened on the last serveral versions of Hoster. Also, I noticed now with 4.11 my internal dvd drive reads cdg's again. Over the last couple of years it would work untill I upgraded a newer version of Hoster then it wouldn't work anymore. Next upgrade it may or may not work, etc. Don't know why, thought is may be a programing issue but what do I know. I wonder if this could be related to what you are describing but probably it's a video memory issue. Just guessing.

[billyo]

my drive's always been working, i had never had a problem with the old version, its just when the 4xxx versions came out, but anyway i did a show last Sat. and i was importing singers disc at the very end of a song playing, i noticed that i was getting a glitched on the singers monitor while importing and reading the disc was so slow, but writing the disc just took a few seconds..

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by billyo

my drive's always been working, i had never had a problem with the old version, its just when the 4xxx versions came out, but anyway i did a show last Sat. and i was importing singers disc at the very end of a song playing, i noticed that i was getting a glitched on the singers monitor while importing and reading the disc was so slow, but writing the disc just took a few seconds..

This could be because the singer's disc is either scratched or dirty. This would make the read slower as Hoster trys to correct errors in the read. Take a look at their disc before you put it in the drive. This one reason why I still keep a disc cleaner handy.
You would be surprised at how many people (some DJs and KJs too) do not know how to handle CDs. I have seen people rub them on their shirts or pants to try to clean them or grab the across the data side with their whole hand.

[billyo]

i have a disc cleaner too,( Skip Dr ) yup i've seen fellow kj's lick ( ) them and wiped it off on their sides...

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by WaltR

My Hoster screen goes blank when I import a cd but the singers monitor and sound keep going without any problems. This has happened on the last serveral versions of Hoster. Also, I noticed now with 4.11 my internal dvd drive reads cdg's again. Over the last couple of years it would work untill I upgraded a newer version of Hoster then it wouldn't work anymore. Next upgrade it may or may not work, etc. Don't know why, thought is may be a programing issue but what do I know. I wonder if this could be related to what you are describing but probably it's a video memory issue. Just guessing.

Strange but workable I guess. My guess would be not enough video resources (memory) to maintain both screens when importing.
As far as the drives working then not then working again there is no telling, unless the testing is not waiting long enough for the drive to respond. However MTU did include an out for this. In the drive set-up you can force Hoster to accept the drive as good. On the right side you can click the button to tell Hoster the drive is good.

[billyo]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

This could be because the singer's disc is either scratched or dirty. This would make the read slower as Hoster trys to correct errors in the read. Take a look at their disc before you put it in the drive. This one reason why I still keep a disc cleaner handy.
You would be surprised at how many people (some DJs and KJs too) do not know how to handle CDs. I have seen people rub them on their shirts or pants to try to clean them or grab the across the data side with their whole hand.

just got a new problem with importing last night, and you were right the singers disc was dirty, i brought my disc cleaner with me last night, but anyway, i tried importing the disc while a song was playing and i still get the same problem it will stop for a few sec. and when it starts back up the songs go out of sync, but the singers monitor glitched was gone...

[ddouglass]

That is the error correction kicking in. My wife has gone to makeing announcements in between while importing. Saves on the aggrevation in case the disc is scratched or extremely dirty.

[billyo]

we had a bad weather last night, and luckily for me it wasn't a busy night, (40-50ppl )and i had some friends that came by , and one of them is a comedian,( looks like Fat Albert ) so when i found out about my importing problem , i kinda asked him to tell a few jokes,while i import..and it worked, had to buy him a few drinks though..but anyway if that was the error correction working, there is no way of fixing it ?, so you're telling me unless the disc in good shape importing shouldn't be problem ?..

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by billyo

my drive's always been working, i had never had a problem with the old version, its just when the 4xxx versions came out, but anyway i did a show last Sat. and i was importing singers disc at the very end of a song playing, i noticed that i was getting a glitched on the singers monitor while importing and reading the disc was so slow, but writing the disc just took a few seconds..

I never had any problems importing a singer disk track in 3.xx and older versions.
I had nothing but problems from day one with 4.xx. Someversions it would throw the lyrics out of sync for the duration of the import. And in some it would slow down the swiping on lyrics for the duration of the imports and in others it would create a nasty audio drop during the import.

After Admin badgered me for quite a while about reloading windows, I did and all of my singer disk import problems went away. All of my singer disk imports are now perfect, and with only 32mb onboard graphics. The only issue I OCCASIONALLY have is an audio drop when I eject the disk so I now wait until the song is finished before ejecting.

I tried installing a 256mb card and started having the problems again so I dumped the card and restored my computer to before then and all is working again.

To summarize: Try reloading windows and do the updates and then re-instal Hoster. It's an all day affair so plan to start early and work late but it may fix things right up.

Sam

[billyo]

Originally Posted by mindonstrike

I never had any problems importing a singer disk track in 3.xx and older versions.
I had nothing but problems from day one with 4.xx. Someversions it would throw the lyrics out of sync for the duration of the import. And in some it would slow down the swiping on lyrics for the duration of the imports and in others it would create a nasty audio drop during the import.

After Admin badgered me for quite a while about reloading windows, I did and all of my singer disk import problems went away. All of my singer disk imports are now perfect, and with only 32mb onboard graphics. The only issue I OCCASIONALLY have is an audio drop when I eject the disk so I now wait until the song is finished before ejecting.

I tried installing a 256mb card and started having the problems again so I dumped the card and restored my computer to before then and all is working again.

To summarize: Try reloading windows and do the updates and then re-instal Hoster. It's an all day affair so plan to start early and work late but it may fix things right up.

Sam

re-loading windows, yup i've done those and i dont think i wanted to do that again,and i do keep up with the updates,but thanks for the suggestions though, i dont have problems with audio dropped outs,and i'm fine with what i got now, i only have one singer that brings in her own disc anyway and it's mostly broadway tunes, so worst come to worst i'll just buy the same disc.and i would rather spend the whole day importing disc, that reloading windows..thanks again for the suggestions.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by billyo

i only have one singer that brings in her own disc anyway and it's mostly broadway tunes, so worst come to worst i'll just buy the same disc.and i would rather spend the whole day importing disc, that reloading windows..thanks again for the suggestions.

That is what I always do (buy the disc), and you will be surprised someday that someone else will also end up singing some of those same songs on that same disc once they know you have them.

[billyo]

i just upgraded my back-up to 4.11 and i tried to import a disc while a song is playing using my int. cd/dvd drive,test came out good.i used my own disc this time ( very clean and in good shape ), i still had the same problem, i updated the driver, same result, the song playing was wobbly, then it stopped..then i switched to my ext. slim cd/dvd drive test came out good,i imported a song ..well ..didn't have any problem, everything went well , no wobbles, song did not stop..