Legal or illegal

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Robster,

Just curious as to what the penalties/fines are for DJ's/KJ's that are not licensed, or are kinda illegal?

[Robster]

Originally Posted by RIKKI TIKKI

Robster,

Just curious as to what the penalties/fines are for DJ's/KJ's that are not licensed, or are kinda illegal?

The new licence was introduced i believe august 2008 it is only for converted material so if you download a mp3+G as is to your performance drive no licence is needed ..only converstion from cd lp tape to a digital format. so if you still use CDs for music no licence is needed its the conversion the produb is needed. so basically you have to pay twice if you bought the original and now want to use a Computer.

The produb people say they are not out to prosecute but educate so if they find someone they will inform them they need to purchase a licence etc and only after that will they take tougher action

so far as i can tell although it is law NOT ONE SINGLE person has been prosecuted of forced to buy a licence.

I dont know for certain but i believe that less than a 1000 DJ's in the UK have bought this license ! The ones that have are plastering web sites saying that djs without the licence are dodgy illegal ..when they might not be and just using original discs on hardware players.

I Think if a dj was prosecuted and he took it to court and was represented by a good barrister he would probably win as there are so many things that make this unfair.

oh and another thing when you buy a licence you sign away some of your rights as the conditions are that they can have access to your equipment and gear to check your collection but if you dont have a licence they would need a warrant!

I wish to support artists and make sure they get there fair share BUT it grinds my gears when i have paid once for my karaoke and they want me to pay again and i dont think the money will go to the artists at all in the CDG karaoke case.

[RandyMcCharles]

This all stinks of a cash grab. The laws for music have been around for a long time and new laws for downloading music are being driven by the much larger non-karaoke music market. Exceptions, extra fees, circumventing purchaser's rights, etc. all looking looking to legally or frequently just scare more money out of you. I'm glad I'm just a karaoke singer and not a KJ so my exposure to this nonsense is limited. I still do, however, want to buy music for my personally collection legally. All this crap makes it real difficult to determine what is or isn't legal.

[ddouglass]

Careful Randy. My wife, my sister-in-law and I started out as just singers. Next thing I knew I had bought two complete setups and we were doing shows. We are now down to two shows a week and an occasional party which is managable without taking over our lives.

[RandyMcCharles]

Yes, this does worry me Especially as I have not kept all my karaoke purchase receipts.

[Musicman51]

Robster,

Just curious as to what the penalties/fines are for DJ's/KJ's that are not licensed, or are kinda illegal?

I don't know...but i'll tell ya this. With fees like that, i'll bet not many KJs are making any money there..lol I went out this past weekend with a nice young lady, and we decided to visit some private clubs that advertised karaoke. I was shocked to find, that 3 we visited that advertised in the newspaper they had karaoke, owned their own karaoke machines. Had members of the club volunteer a turn to run karaoke after the fish fry, and to add insult to misery. Many members brought in there own mostly copied disc, and also donated copied disc to the club. When i made out my singer slip to go up and sing i had no idea, untill i saw the "Memorex" karaoke disc being loaded into a very slow to cue VocoPro DVD/Karaoke machine. Seems now it's not just kj's, but clubs getting into the illegal disc situation. perhaps it's the economy?

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Musicman51

I don't know...but i'll tell ya this. With fees like that, i'll bet not many KJs are making any money there..lol I went out this past weekend with a nice young lady, and we decided to visit some private clubs that advertised karaoke. I was shocked to find, that 3 we visited that advertised in the newspaper they had karaoke, owned their own karaoke machines. Had members of the club volunteer a turn to run karaoke after the fish fry, and to add insult to misery. Many members brought in there own mostly copied disc, and also donated copied disc to the club. When i made out my singer slip to go up and sing i had no idea, untill i saw the "Memorex" karaoke disc being loaded into a very slow to cue VocoPro DVD/Karaoke machine. Seems now it's not just kj's, but clubs getting into the illegal disc situation. perhaps it's the economy?

Prime candidate for lawsuit.