Feedback Eliminator

[Roy Dennis]

Thanks for your reply Lonman.
As the type I was looking at were at the cheaper end like Behringer I think with the replies Ive had so far I will forget about using one and follow yours and the others advise.

Roy.

[BooBoo]

You can get a good feedback eliminator that will do the job it was intended for. The features to look for are finding one that will detect the spike in the narrowest band possible, then release it after a short amount of time. This does not take the place of EQing, but is a tool to use with it and can help provide a cleaner sound at a higher level.

Small loud rooms can be tough. One thing to do is to put sound absorption behind the stage and would do a better job than an eliminator. Many times the same sound can bounce off the fore wall then back to the back wall and into the mic in time to create the feedback. Something on the wall behind the mic can help blunt a return to the mic.

Neither will help when someone points a mic into a speaker..

[billyo]

Originally Posted by BooBoo

You can get a good feedback eliminator that will do the job it was intended for. The features to look for are finding one that will detect the spike in the narrowest band possible, then release it after a short amount of time. This does not take the place of EQing, but is a tool to use with it and can help provide a cleaner sound at a higher level.

Small loud rooms can be tough. One thing to do is to put sound absorption behind the stage and would do a better job than an eliminator. Many times the same sound can bounce off the fore wall then back to the back wall and into the mic in time to create the feedback. Something on the wall behind the mic can help blunt a return to the mic.

Neither will help when someone points a mic into a speaker..

that would add more work for him, i mean carrying , placing and tearing down those sound absorption every place he plays...sound absorption would be good if you're playing in one steady place...

[BooBoo]

Seemed like he was having trouble at one venue. I'd ask the venue do it and it could help anyone that played there. Not possible if he backs up to the front window of course.. LOL

I had one place that was a sound nightmare and suggested they put something as simple as a curtain behind the stage, which was a brick wall. They added a thin, detatched, felt covered backdrop (probably with thin plywood frame) and it helped alot. I am sure the bands appreciated it too..

It also helped by providing a place to hang a banner.

[Roy Dennis]

Thanks for your input, but as Billyo said it would be a bit much walking into some of the bars I work and start putting up sound absorption.

I have started making notes in a little book of my maximum volume and mike settings for each bar and setting the gain controls to this before I start.(after a few times I should have this worked out) Then using my separate volume sliders so that even if I put a volume slider all the way up I should not get the feedback except in an exceptional case like someone walking right up to the speaker.

As all my jobs are set up and rip down when finished I don't like spending too long setting up. I have designed my system to be light and easy to set up so that most places I can be up and running in about 30-40 minutes including disco lighting all on my own, and at 67 years old I don't think I do too bad. Although I still usually arrive about an hour before I start just to be on the safe side and get a pint in first

Roy.

[billyo]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

Thanks for your input, but as Billyo said it would be a bit much walking into some of the bars I work and start putting up sound absorption.

I have started making notes in a little book of my maximum volume and mike settings for each bar and setting the gain controls to this before I start.(after a few times I should have this worked out) Then using my separate volume sliders so that even if I put a volume slider all the way up I should not get the feedback except in an exceptional case like someone walking right up to the speaker.

As all my jobs are set up and rip down when finished I don't like spending too long setting up. I have designed my system to be light and easy to set up so that most places I can be up and running in about 30-40 minutes including disco lighting all on my own, and at 67 years old I don't think I do too bad. Although I still usually arrive about an hour before I start just to be on the safe side and get a pint in first

Roy.

i hear yah Roy! i do the same thing, it takes me 1/2 hr.setting/ teardown
since all my gears are in a custom built roadcase that i built myself, i usually get in 1hr. before the show,since the karaoke room is separated from the other rooms i can do all the sound checks wihout bothering anybody..and by them i had just about enough liquid courage to get on goinggggg..