Trouble Reading SAV-A & P's

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by bendrew

... I like Hoster/Microstudio for being easy to use, but it doesn't mean anything if it's not working properly. You look at the history of the upgrades and you will agree that most of them are buggy. This is only my observation and opinion... It's just a WAKE UP call.

All software (if the authors are being truthfull) are "buggy" to one degree or another. Any software that manages to get all the bugs out and keep them out are simply not adding features or making changes because thats where they sneek in.

Many companies aren't going to advertise there bugs to their potential customers. Kudos to MTU for being honest and listing the good with the problems.

Some of those bugs that are listed in the upgrade history were never even seen by the public, They were caught by the beta-testers before it ever got released and many of the others were only experienced by a small number of people. With a very few exceptions most of the listed bugs were annoyances rather than major ptoblems.

So I would respectfully disaggree with your assesment.

Sam

[Musicman51]

"As i stated, i went back to my last update. Things are back to normal now."

Dale, i do not upgrade my hardware or firmware using microsoft...and i would not suggest anyone else do it either. And yes, i keep current on all windows and hardware updates. As i stated above i went back to my previous version. My Microstudio is now working better then those who have choosen to upgrade.

I believe both bendrew, and sam have valid points. bendrew, "junk" ...ummmm...might be just a tad bit harsh? But i do see some of your concerns as real. Dale, i never said that you didn't think i or others didn't have a legitimate problem. Please, with all due respect, please go back and reread what i posted.

Yes i and i am sure others know the hard work, long hours, time sacrifice and dedication our wonderful teams of beta testers put into the products we have come to depend on for our shows, and in alot of cases, our income. So dale, please don't assume you are the only one who needs these products to work correctly. We are all in the same boat, i just don't want to see it become a sinking ship.

Sam, anytime an "upgrade" has problems, it's more then an annoyance. It's a problem, no matter how minor it is.

Dale, you are speaking of yet another quick fix upgrade for hoster? i bet bendrew is setting there wondering what trade off we are going to have to endure now. I have been asked through the years when i was going to switch over to "Computer Karaoke. I waited, waited, waited, untill i knew mtu had all the bugs worked out of hoster. They, according to their website assured us they had. So, i finally took the plunge, invested big bucks in a laptop, 4 external drives, audio interface, s-video converters..the list goes on and on. Just to get garbled title and credit screens, and repeated "Quick Fix" upgrades. Now i have hoster running rather smoothly, just to find yet another upgrade. I know... i know... we don't have to upgrade. But, if it's free, and is an assured "fixed" and better operating version, who wouldn't? This is bendrews dilemma, and frankly i see his point.

Microstudio is a work tool for me, not a player, or just a way to backup my disc. So it must work correctly. This version does not. That is the long and short of it. So i went back to my pervious version, and i am happy with it. I have stayed with mtu for going on 10 years now, and i hope to be around another 10. However, perception is 90%. I recently visited a private karaoke forum, who did reviews of karaoke software and products. I contributed my experience with this upgrade of Microstudio, and sadly..had to give it a failing grade, and poor review. I will wait for at least two or three upgrades, before i try anotrher upgrade...but..i will try again.
I have faith in mtu, and in their products. I thank them for creating the best software in the business.
Respectfully George

The term upgrade refers to the replacement of a product with a newer version of that same product. It is most often used in computing and consumer electronics, generally meaning a replacement of hardware, software or firmware with a newer or better version, in order to bring the system up to date or to improve its characteristics.

Risks
Although upgrades are for the purpose of improving a product, there are risks involved—including the possibility that the upgrade will worsen the product. When software is upgraded, there is a chance that the new version (or patch) will contain a bug, causing the program to malfunction in some way or not function at all. For example, in October 2005, a glitch in a software upgrade caused trading on the Tokyo Stock Exchange to be shut down for most of the day^. Upgrades can also worsen a product subjectively. A user may prefer an older version even if a newer version is perfectly functioning.

[Wrahn]

I have four computers, three of which have the microstudio demo 4.20 installed and my new computer which has the full 4.20 program installed.
I'm not sure when I upgraded to 4.20, but I've just noticed that the title page on the SAV is not readable on all of my computers when played from the CD or when imported and played.

Even so, for Gee Wiz I used the demo copy of 4.20 in one computer to make a copy of some mixed tracks which included SAV and then played the copy on my JVC player and to my surprise the title pages were fine for all tracks. The copied disk still has the problem when playing on my computer, but seems to be able to copy for use in my JVC Karaoke Player.

Not sure if this helps the discussion or just adds s**t to the discussion.

Wes

[billyo]

Originally Posted by Wrahn

I have four computers, three of which have the microstudio demo 4.20 installed and my new computer which has the full 4.20 program installed.
I'm not sure when I upgraded to 4.20, but I've just noticed that the title page on the SAV is not readable on all of my computers when played from the CD or when imported and played.

Even so, for Gee Wiz I used the demo copy of 4.20 in one computer to make a copy of some mixed tracks which included SAV and then played the copy on my JVC player and to my surprise the title pages were fine for all tracks. The copied disk still has the problem when playing on my computer, but seems to be able to copy for use in my JVC Karaoke Player.

Not sure if this helps the discussion or just adds s**t to the discussion.

Wes

sav's wont play right on ms 4.20, some of them ( sav's ) will play the first phrase without a problem, but the second phrase will be garbled..and it's gonna be like that, on every other phrase, and from what i heard/read fixing it is not on priority list..

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Wrahn

I have four computers, three of which have the microstudio demo 4.20 installed and my new computer which has the full 4.20 program installed.
I'm not sure when I upgraded to 4.20, but I've just noticed that the title page on the SAV is not readable on all of my computers when played from the CD or when imported and played.

Even so, for Gee Wiz I used the demo copy of 4.20 in one computer to make a copy of some mixed tracks which included SAV and then played the copy on my JVC player and to my surprise the title pages were fine for all tracks. The copied disk still has the problem when playing on my computer, but seems to be able to copy for use in my JVC Karaoke Player.

Not sure if this helps the discussion or just adds s**t to the discussion.

Wes

Wes,
Microstudio 4.20 uses the same player as Hoster now and the SAV title pages have not shown correctly in it for a while. The majority of people do not have any problem with the lyrics part of them. A few have some problems with the lyrics but none of the MTU staff or testers have been able to recreate the problem which makes it very difficult to isolate. The problem with the Title pages is the way that the SAV have the interlace set up for those screens which makes them appear garbled.

[Musicman51]

Actually, the way the SAV A&P's lyrics were tapped out {written} is so bad, that even on a karaoke player, they are next to worthless. If i have a customer that really likes a version of a song off one of these old disc, i take it, and rewrite it using Microstudio, KHpro. I make some great tracks off these old cdg's using mtu products. I will eventually make all of them over. Just a project for my spare time.