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Old October 27th, 2008, 12:38 AM
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Question Lyric Sync Issue

First song loaded still has a lyric sync problem. Restart the first song and all is well the rest of the night! Any suggestions? Running XP.

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Old October 27th, 2008, 01:07 AM
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Hey Rick,
What kind of file was it that did not play? Are you using the old video player or the new one? Do you see the Hoster Logo Video everytime you open Hoster?

MTU added the Logo Video so the video settings in Hoster were correct before we started playing any files.

If you opened Hoster and did not see the Logo Video before Hoster was ready to use, the "sync settings" for Hoster may not have been set so to speak, a computer glitch. When you restarted Hoster, it fixed it.

I've tested well over 50 versions of Hoster 4. Every once in a while with some beta's, what you decribe here happened BUT once I restarted Hoster, it never happened again (on XP). You should only see this once. It's like Hoster (4.06) needs to adjust for the system it's installed on. Once this is done it runs rock solid.

If you are not using the old player, give it a go and see it the problem disappears.

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Old October 27th, 2008, 01:28 AM
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Jim,

Not sure which player (old or new) is on the show computer, and it's out in the van, so I'll check it and get back to you! I got used to running the first song on playlist (usually a warm up/ test for video) for a bit, and then restart to get rid of any sync problems. That was version 4.03 or 4.04 I think, then I dropped video down to 16 bit and updated drivers in video card, and sync problems disappeared. Using 4.06 now and by habit I continued to do the start/restart at beginning. Then Friday nite show, forgot/tried it without start/restarting and sync problem occurred and after restarting ran show without a glitch. So I'm trying to see what I need to fix, in order not to have the first song sync issue.

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Old October 27th, 2008, 01:39 AM
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Okay Rick,
I never see this this problem anymore (haven't for quite a while) so we'll have to work off of your reports.

Keep me posted.

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Hey Rick, how quickly did you start playing the first song? I am still able to occasionally get a problem when I get in a hurry. Either I hit play as soon as I can after Hoster opens up, or when I panic and hit pause,play,skip very quickly.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 02:14 AM
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Jim,

OK, got show computer out and started Hoster, checked for player, and NEW is installed. Started a trial song (kma) and sync issue was there. Switched to OLD player, and restarted Hoster with a different song and sync issue is still there. Hoster starts with MTU logo each start, and then I have my own logo that appears in the intermission screen. Add first song to playlist, hit play, and out of sync issue is there, until I restart, then no more problems, until next restart of Hoster program.

Marklwood,

Yeah, I normally don't rush or panic. This is after MTU logo plays, and my logo appears in intermission screen. Add song to playlist, hit play and sync issue is there! I used to, and have prior to show, out of habit I guess since 4.03 or 4.04, start and restart first song to insure lyrics stay in sync, and for the most part, hadn't been an issue until I upgraded to version 4.06 and started show Friday nite without start/restart of first song (Mine) and as luck would have it the sync issue popped out and I called my assistant to restart song, and never glitched rest of the night.

Sooooo...?

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Old October 27th, 2008, 02:44 AM
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Rick,
Does this happens every single time you start a song in 4.06 the first time you open Hoster 4.06? Are you saying you can go back to 4.05 and and the problem does not happen?

The one time I saw a consistant sync problem with a Beta, it was due to a video driver issue. Here's the weird part, the lasted drivers were causing the problem. I had to try TOO MANY old drivers until I found one that my video card liked. This may not be the case here, I'm just sharing.

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Add song to playlist, hit play and sync issue is there!
Do you start with a clear playlist every time you open Hoster? I don't, I always open Hoster with a couple of songs left on the list from the gig before. Once Hoster is loaded, I delete the old songs then add my first song/songs. This may make not help, it's just a difference that I see.

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Old October 27th, 2008, 03:07 AM
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Jim,

Normally I start with a fresh playlist, unless I had a few residue songs that I didn't get to in the previous show. 4.05 had the issue where the original playlist would come back after you turn on next show, and all I do is delete any residue and start a new playlist for each show. Also had the original playlist without modifications ( songs that had played already, or rotation changes, deletions, etc. ) pop up when you had to revert back to 3.4 during 4.05 version. I haven't ran 4.06 that many times but will try a few of your suggestions, and wait for others to report whether they incurred the same problem, before I figure out what is causing it. Very minor glitch, and it won't keep me from experimenting with new effects. I dont use videos or instabuttons right now, so those are future items that I may or may not use during show, but want to familiarize myself with the newest features, so I can improve my show as we travel towards 4.10 with MTU.

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