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Old September 19th, 2008, 10:00 AM
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Singers Display Uses All CPU 100%

I Don't think It's The Program, Matter Of fact In My Opinion MTU Worked Long and Hard To Fill Everyone's Requests. However On One of my PC the program Works Fine and the other PC i have a issue with the singers Display. If i have the singers Display Open and a song is playing, When I click a singers name to display there songs the graphics will stop or lag and when the singers display finishes by opening the singers songlist then the grapics will catch up and work fine again. I've tried everything I could think of but ran out of anwsers. The CPU will use 99-100% Until Singers Display Gets done Opening and then goes back to Normal. Any Ideas
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Old September 19th, 2008, 11:14 AM
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What other programs (foreground or background) are running?
Vista or XP?
How much memory on your computer?
What is the processor speed?
How much "Video" memory is on your video card?

Do you have all the Custom upgrades from Microsoft?
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Old September 19th, 2008, 11:24 AM
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I have a Shuttle SN41g 1.2 2500+ 1gig Ram Nvidia on Board, I believe it's 32mb shared. Did'nt have a problem with it running 4.03 Also I Have XP and nothing is running in the background except what is needed in Task Manager, and everything in there shows 00 it's only Hoster that will run at 100%
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Old September 19th, 2008, 11:31 AM
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Are you using Single or Dual screens?
If you video memory is only 32mb shared then that may be part of the problem. This would be an On-board card I am supposing. Might be a good idea if you have a slot for it to add a video card with about 256MB memory that is separate and thus does not require sharing.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 12:21 PM
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I reported this problem around the middle of August, (ID: 11994-7425081030 ).. Support ask me to send a copy of my singers db. I did, but have not heard from them since. I had hoped ver4.04 would fix the problem. But it is just as bad now. I have enough memory, updates, etc........
Anytime you do anything with the singers DB, everything else either stops or slows until the DB has finished doing what ever it is doing.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 01:45 PM
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Dale asked an interesting question that wasn't answered. Are either of you running in dual screen with the singer's display on the second monitor? If you are trying to run it on the same monitor, the color and screen resolutions are different for the CDG display and the windows you have open for program control. Imagine trying to do 2 things at once (Hoster window and search window) AND doing a totally different thing in another window (display words at a different resolution and color setting)

You can try setting your color display resolution back to 16 bit/8 bit, or lowering you display settings to relieve some of the strain on you video. The best option would be to upgrade to a faster video card with more onboard memory.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 01:56 PM
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I reported this problem around the middle of August, (ID: 11994-7425081030 ).. Support ask me to send a copy of my singers db. I did, but have not heard from them since. I had hoped ver4.04 would fix the problem. But it is just as bad now. I have enough memory, updates, etc........
Anytime you do anything with the singers DB, everything else either stops or slows until the DB has finished doing what ever it is doing.
Laddie he is talking about the Singer's display not the singers database.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 04:02 PM
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I Don't think It's The Program, Matter Of fact In My Opinion MTU Worked Long and Hard To Fill Everyone's Requests. However On One of my PC the program Works Fine and the other PC i have a issue with the singers Display. If i have the singers Display Open and a song is playing, When I click a singers name to display there songs the graphics will stop or lag and when the singers display finishes by opening the singers songlist then the grapics will catch up and work fine again. I've tried everything I could think of but ran out of anwsers. The CPU will use 99-100% Until Singers Display Gets done Opening and then goes back to Normal. Any Ideas
Your are talking about clicking the singers name from the singers database aren't you?
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Old September 19th, 2008, 04:04 PM
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Dale asked an interesting question that wasn't answered. Are either of you running in dual screen with the singer's display on the second monitor? If you are trying to run it on the same monitor, the color and screen resolutions are different for the CDG display and the windows you have open for program control. Imagine trying to do 2 things at once (Hoster window and search window) AND doing a totally different thing in another window (display words at a different resolution and color setting)

You can try setting your color display resolution back to 16 bit/8 bit, or lowering you display settings to relieve some of the strain on you video. The best option would be to upgrade to a faster video card with more onboard memory.

In my case it makes no difference ,single or duel does the same thing
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Old September 19th, 2008, 04:16 PM
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It would be probably be Singers database, I Tried putting in a AGP Graphics Card by ATI 9200se and it does same thing. So I don't think it is a Card issue. Laddie is correct, My problem is the same
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Old September 19th, 2008, 05:04 PM
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Sorry I thought you were talking about the lyrics display for the singers.
Did you disable the onboard video card? If not then it will still be active and using the same resources.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 05:22 PM
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I looked in the Bios and didn't see any anything to disable. It might of disabled it self once it detected add on card
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Old September 19th, 2008, 06:49 PM
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I have one of the same shuttle computers. I can't see any anything to disable either. I installed a 256 agp video card in mine. It helps a little but sometimes mine has a glitch in the sound and graphics also. I have 2 Meg of memory.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 07:17 PM
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Check in Control Panel/System. Look for the Device Manager on the Hardware tab and disable it there. Both cards should be listed under Display Adapters.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 07:39 PM
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I have one of the same shuttle computers. I can't see any anything to disable either. I installed a 256 agp video card in mine. It helps a little but sometimes mine has a glitch in the sound and graphics also. I have 2 Meg of memory.
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It would be probably be Singers database, I Tried putting in a AGP Graphics Card by ATI 9200se and it does same thing. So I don't think it is a Card issue. Laddie is correct, My problem is the same
How'd you guys get the cards to fit without problems?
I got a Nvidia AGP 256 card for mine and couldn't get it to fit without pinching some wires coming out of a connector on the edge of the motherboard and the heatsink interfered with the case?

I have a similiar problem as you guys except mine occurs when I import a singer disk track. Unfortunatly being the only tester with the problem made it difficult to determine if it was a program problem or my computers problem

Reading these I was thinking this might be a Shuttle issue (i have 2) but then I recalled I'm having the same problem with my Acer Laptop.

I don't use the singer database but I'll check it out and see if it does the same as yours.


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Old September 19th, 2008, 08:41 PM
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I also have two shuttles with just about the same thing as yours. I put an ATI 256meg in mine and it didn't make much differance. When I load the singers database it runs the cpu usage up to 100% also. The other shuttle I still use the internal graphics card. They are both running at 100% when you load the singers database. I have 1.5 gig memory in the one shuttle with a 1.3 amd cpu.
The other shuttle using the on board graphics 32meg shared I have 2 meg of memory, and it has a 1.8 amd cpu.
Then on my third computer I have a duell core amd 4400 with 1 gig of memory and it uses 45-50% cpu usage when I load the singers database.
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Check in Control Panel/System. Look for the Device Manager on the Hardware tab and disable it there. Both cards should be listed under Display Adapters.
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My onboad graphics card doesn't show up. I uninstalled the software to it when I installed the ATI agp board.
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It may be down in another area.
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Old September 20th, 2008, 05:26 AM
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i got mine working pretty good, I have a Radeon 9200se 128mb and when i installed it without doing nothing the same thing was happening, So i went into bios. there is three settings for AGP. 1st everything is set at default so I changed the video from PCI to Onboard/AGP Next I changed Buffer from 32M to 128M and then Apeture Size I Upped it to 256M. These Were the Specs for my Card. Now the CPU still goes up to 99% But my graphics don't stop like before. I'll Know better when I put it to the test on Saturday.
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