Microstudio Won`t Work???

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by dan matney

I have spent the last week trying to get the new version of micro studio upgrade to work and it seems impossible to me. I have read and did all the things that others say to do and nothing works. Wish I had the old version back it did at least work. I do have it so it will read the cdgs now but will not write them I keep getting messages that say....write error occured, please check your media and try again.....the following error occured---- write error
.....disc duplication error user abort......
I wanted to upgrade hoster, but with these kind of problems it would put me out of business, Im scared to deal with this any more, if I loose any more function Im out of business, and you cant call for help they will not answer or return your calls. Im at the point of buying a plane ticket for me and my puter and walk in your office and pay you guys anything you want to help me get this going, I dont know what to do here.
Can someone help me, this is my only income and you guys have me shut down because I wanted to be better.
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Dan matney
kowboyway@usa.net

Dan do you have another CD drive to try? It could be the drive has decided at this moment to malfunction. I just had one ldo this to me last night. I imported one disc of a set into Hoster. Went to the next and all of a sudden drive would not read it. Tried several discs including the one that worked just minutes before but no read. Swapped it out with another drive and all is well.
Try a different drive and see if it will write. Also check your medium (blank discs). Not all discs work for music and even some of those can be bad. The read/write portion of Microstudio has not changed since version 4 was released. So if it worked in 4.005 then it should have worked in 4.006.

[dan matney]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Dan do you have another CD drive to try? It could be the drive has decided at this moment to malfunction. I just had one ldo this to me last night. I imported one disc of a set into Hoster. Went to the next and all of a sudden drive would not read it. Tried several discs including the one that worked just minutes before but no read. Swapped it out with another drive and all is well.
Try a different drive and see if it will write. Also check your medium (blank discs). Not all discs work for music and even some of those can be bad. The read/write portion of Microstudio has not changed since version 4 was released. So if it worked in 4.005 then it should have worked in 4.006.

Well, I guess Im a long timer her, I had version 2.517, thisis my first upgrade since buying the software years ago, it worked so I could not see upgrading if I liked what I was doing, but decided I should upgrade to be able to burn from my kma files and that, and ahve been shut down ever since. Im really really trying to be paitent here, but when this is your business it is hard to set here, and watch time go by, and cant do anything.
My hoster program is 3.000 and Im afraid to upgrade it at this time, I want to be on top of this stuff, but man if I upgrade that and and it works like studio does, Im out of business for sure. since I upgraded from these older versions is there something I might have missed along the way, that keeps this from working? Thanks for the time to respond

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[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by dan matney

Well, I guess I'm a long timer her, I had version 2.517, this is my first upgrade since buying the software years ago, it worked so I could not see upgrading if I liked what I was doing, but decided I should upgrade to be able to burn from my kma files and that, and have been shut down ever since. I'm really really trying to be patient here, but when this is your business it is hard to set here, and watch time go by, and cant do anything.
My Hoster program is 3.000 and I'm afraid to upgrade it at this time, I want to be on top of this stuff, but man if I upgrade that and and it works like studio does, I'm out of business for sure. since I upgraded from these older versions is there something I might have missed along the way, that keeps this from working? Thanks for the time to respond

kowboys karaoke

As far as Hoster goes, I would wait for 4.03 before doing anything with it. MTU and we beta testers have been working hard on getting this right. From what I see it is coming along great. Still got a few problems to solve but I have every confidence they will figure them out and get it right.

Microstudio. Yes you have missed a lot along the way. MTU has changed their base CD\DVD drive communication from the old ASPI format that requires specific disk drives to a universal format (acronym escapes me now ). This allows a whole lot more drives to work and doesn't require you have special ones. Most DVD burners will work now.
Additionally you need to make sure you have done the Microsoft "Custom" updates and loaded all of them. If you haven't done this in a while then you will probably have to go back to it several times to get them all. Some of the updates have additional changes that don't show up until you install the first one. I know of at least one case where a person had done all the upgrades except one which was a Korean language update and still could not get her programs to work right. As soon as MTU had her do that update everything worked right. Go figure!! The only thing I can think of is something else was included with it that Microsoft didn't list in the description.
You haven't said what drive you are using but I would check the company's web page and see if they have a firmware update for your drive.
Hope this helps. I still say it may be your drive that is failing and if you have another drive to test it with then that would help.

[dan matney]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

As far as Hoster goes, I would wait for 4.03 before doing anything with it. MTU and we beta testers have been working hard on getting this right. From what I see it is coming along great. Still got a few problems to solve but I have every confidence they will figure them out and get it right.

Microstudio. Yes you have missed a lot along the way. MTU has changed their base CD\DVD drive communication from the old ASPI format that requires specific disk drives to a universal format (acronym escapes me now ). This allows a whole lot more drives to work and doesn't require you have special ones. Most DVD burners will work now.
Additionally you need to make sure you have done the Microsoft "Custom" updates and loaded all of them. If you haven't done this in a while then you will probably have to go back to it several times to get them all. Some of the updates have additional changes that don't show up until you install the first one. I know of at least one case where a person had done all the upgrades except one which was a Korean language update and still could not get her programs to work right. As soon as MTU had her do that update everything worked right. Go figure!! The only thing I can think of is something else was included with it that Microsoft didn't list in the description.
You haven't said what drive you are using but I would check the company's web page and see if they have a firmware update for your drive.
Hope this helps. I still say it may be your drive that is failing and if you have another drive to test it with then that would help.

I have a plexwriter I bought from mtu and has wroked fine, Im not saying it is not bad but it would be one big coincidence for it to bad at the very time I upgraded, do you know if I can down load all this on to another puter that I have, to see if it will work on it, or will I have to buy the download again?


thank you so much for your support
kowboy

[ddouglass]

Not sure exactly by what you mean. If you are talking about the updates, then Microsoft doesn't save the files but downloads and installs them so you have to do that from the computer you are using.Microstudio can be installed on 2 computers (I think) and when you download it this time save it. That way you don't have to keep downloading it.
I thought drives wouldn't do that either till I had one die in the middle of importing. Work for one cd, went to import the next and it wouldn't read any more discs. Good thing I have Hoster on more than one computer so we could finish the imports.

[dan matney]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

As far as Hoster goes, I would wait for 4.03 before doing anything with it. MTU and we beta testers have been working hard on getting this right. From what I see it is coming along great. Still got a few problems to solve but I have every confidence they will figure them out and get it right.

Microstudio. Yes you have missed a lot along the way. MTU has changed their base CD\DVD drive communication from the old ASPI format that requires specific disk drives to a universal format (acronym escapes me now ). This allows a whole lot more drives to work and doesn't require you have special ones. Most DVD burners will work now.
Additionally you need to make sure you have done the Microsoft "Custom" updates and loaded all of them. If you haven't done this in a while then you will probably have to go back to it several times to get them all. Some of the updates have additional changes that don't show up until you install the first one. I know of at least one case where a person had done all the upgrades except one which was a Korean language update and still could not get her programs to work right. As soon as MTU had her do that update everything worked right. Go figure!! The only thing I can think of is something else was included with it that Microsoft didn't list in the description.
You haven't said what drive you are using but I would check the company's web page and see if they have a firmware update for your drive.
Hope this helps. I still say it may be your drive that is failing and if you have another drive to test it with then that would help.

Thank you again for your help, I burned a music cd from wondows media and the drive worked fine, but will order another drive from mtu tomorrow, Im at the point that I dont care if I have to replace everything.
I do understand about having patence to do this stuff and that mtu, might be busy with a new program or what ever, but what is the point in that if they dont take care of the things going on with what they already offer, I dotn think Ive ever seen a company that wants other people other than their emplyees to help you with thier problems, but thank god for you, you are a good man to help us.
I did all the window updates I know to do, and changed nothing, Im still leaning on you my man, is there anything else you might think of, Im really desperate not, I use this program in a recording studio, and Im screwed now short of canceling the recordings, or doing with another program.

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Dan

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by dan matney

Thank you again for your help, I burned a music cd from wondows media and the drive worked fine, but will order another drive from mtu tomorrow, Im at the point that I dont care if I have to replace everything.
I do understand about having patence to do this stuff and that mtu, might be busy with a new program or what ever, but what is the point in that if they dont take care of the things going on with what they already offer, I dotn think Ive ever seen a company that wants other people other than their emplyees to help you with thier problems, but thank god for you, you are a good man to help us.
I did all the window updates I know to do, and changed nothing, Im still leaning on you my man, is there anything else you might think of, Im really desperate not, I use this program in a recording studio, and Im screwed now short of canceling the recordings, or doing with another program.

kowboys karaoke
Dan

Burning a music CD is not the same as burning CDGs. The process is more complex because of the graphics and audio combined aspect.
Is the drive you are using a Plextor? If so go to their web site and check the support area for Firmware updates for that drive. This is the control program that resides on the drive itself. This can also make a big difference especially since you are upgrading from so far back.
For the Windows updates did you use the Auto or Express Update to do them? If so you need to go back to their web site and do the Custom Updates.
Hoster 4 is not a new program by all means. The problems that have been time consuming is to make it work with XP and Vista correctly while adding some new features. It certainly is not their intention to be having to spend so much time on it to take away from any of their other programs. This is not a mega company like Microsoft with hundreds of programmers working on projects. It is only a small company with 4 employees and are trying to provide the best quality programs they can. There are in fact many companies that depend on their knowledgable users to help each other with those problems that we know what needs to be done to fix. I personally take it as a vote of confidence that I am giving the correct information to you and others. And believe me I have been corrected and over ridden plenty of times. They do watch what is being said in the forums. If we run into a problem we can't solve then we can always flag the thread for them to take a look and see what they can come up with.
Are you recording for Karaoke or just music? Just curious of your use.

[dan matney]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Burning a music CD is not the same as burning CDGs. The process is more complex because of the graphics and audio combined aspect.
Is the drive you are using a Plextor? If so go to their web site and check the support area for Firmware updates for that drive. This is the control program that resides on the drive itself. This can also make a big difference especially since you are upgrading from so far back.
For the Windows updates did you use the Auto or Express Update to do them? If so you need to go back to their web site and do the Custom Updates.
Hoster 4 is not a new program by all means. The problems that have been time consuming is to make it work with XP and Vista correctly while adding some new features. It certainly is not their intention to be having to spend so much time on it to take away from any of their other programs. This is not a mega company like Microsoft with hundreds of programmers working on projects. It is only a small company with 4 employees and are trying to provide the best quality programs they can. There are in fact many companies that depend on their knowledgable users to help each other with those problems that we know what needs to be done to fix. I personally take it as a vote of confidence that I am giving the correct information to you and others. And believe me I have been corrected and over ridden plenty of times. They do watch what is being said in the forums. If we run into a problem we can't solve then we can always flag the thread for them to take a look and see what they can come up with.
Are you recording for Karaoke or just music? Just curious of your use.

I do both karaoke singers and bands, and do one man shows stuff, guys come in and play all the intstruments for their own cd, most play everything but drums, so I have a elctronic one that I mix in with htem, so they play lead guitar, bass rythem, sing, and keyboard, depends on what they can play, I do add some key board stuff for them if they dont play keyboard. It takes a additonal recording for each instrument you add but when you are done you have a cd with just you on it, has been a pretty popular thing here for musicians to do, but takes a lot of time and I try to keep their cost to a min. I have one guy I done about a year ago and he is being played nationally now.
Now to the big point, you are the man, did I tell you that you are the man, the truth is you are the man......L I tested my drive again last night and it failed doing just music so it must be bad, cant wait to get another from mtu so I can get going here, in case I didnt tell you, you are the man.

kowboys karaoke..........Dan

[ddouglass]

Stop....you are going to give me a big head....

[JAMES HANNA]

THE BURNER CHANGE IS NOT MY ANSWER. I UPGRADED MY HOOSTER AND MICROSTUDIO JUST TO FIND OUT NOW MY OLD BURNER WOULD`NT WORK WITH UPGRADE. I BOUGHT MTU BURNER AND IT WON`T HELP. HOOSTER UPGRADE WORKS FINE (THANK GOD) BUT NO CHANGE OR HELP ON MICROSTUDIO.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by JAMES HANNA

THE BURNER CHANGE IS NOT MY ANSWER. I UPGRADED MY HOOSTER AND MICROSTUDIO JUST TO FIND OUT NOW MY OLD BURNER WOULD`NT WORK WITH UPGRADE. I BOUGHT MTU BURNER AND IT WON`T HELP. HOOSTER UPGRADE WORKS FINE (THANK GOD) BUT NO CHANGE OR HELP ON MICROSTUDIO.

Changing his burner out was for Dan and nothing to do with you. Stop yelling and lets get back to yours.
Did you run the Belarc? If so what did it show?
I may have missed it but what OS are you running?

[JAMES HANNA]

I TRIED ON ANOTHER COMPUTER AND HAD SAME PROB. , STILL HAVE SAME PROB. SINCE DEC. LAST YR. WITH MTU BURNER.

[dan matney]

Ihave not receive my new burner yet and dont know if it will fix the problem but I know whithout doubt that my burner now, will not work, I tried to do some music from windows media player and it failed to write it just like mtu did on the karaoke stuff. I do not put my karaoke puter on line because it is to important to me to get a virus or worm, but the same cds I was trying to copy on this puter and the karaoke puter, failed on this one but works fine on the other so that tells me the burner on this one has to be bad. Just waiting on ups man to bring it. I do undeerstand your frustration, and hope mine works once I replace the burner. I wisxh I was able to help you, but Im not the puter brain here. but Ill tell you this this guy that is tryng to help you knows a bunch.

kowboys karaoke............Dan

[dan matney]

Originally Posted by dan matney

Ihave not receive my new burner yet and dont know if it will fix the problem but I know whithout doubt that my burner now, will not work, I tried to do some music from windows media player and it failed to write it just like mtu did on the karaoke stuff. I do not put my karaoke puter on line because it is to important to me to get a virus or worm, but the same cds I was trying to copy on this puter and the karaoke puter, failed on this one but works fine on the other so that tells me the burner on this one has to be bad. Just waiting on ups man to bring it. I do undeerstand your frustration, and hope mine works once I replace the burner. I wisxh I was able to help you, but Im not the puter brain here. but Ill tell you this this guy that is tryng to help you knows a bunch.

kowboys karaoke............Dan

I just got a while ago my new burner, Ihave it installed, but the puter can not detect that I have one, just one more big problem, the more I spend the worse off I am I dont know what to do now I have set here for 2 hors trying to get this thing going and nothing, I guess Im out of business huh? what a way to do it spend more and get nothing.
dan kowboys karaoke

[Vince Cravotta]

I have been running great for the last month, after all the work on getting my software and/or burner up and running with everyones help. Now I cannot get my burner to produce a Karaoke disc that will play through my computer or be regonized in a MTU Hoster system. It plays in my Karaoke machine but when I try to load those songs into a MTU hoster system it never regonizes the disk. The disk is in the tray, but it keeps asking me to insert a disk in the tray.
Any Suggestions. tks

[dan matney]

The only ting I can suggest is, to make sure that all of your updates for the puter you are on is up to date, if they are not take a time out and do that.
And in addition you might try slowing down, your burn speed, that is what I had to do, I stillon occasion, have that problem and have to reburn sevral times once in a while to get it to work, but on the most part, slowing down did help a lot. mtu jdid not ever respond to the problem I had, so I dont know what they suggest, I dont understand why everything works ok until you do your updates and then you cant get it to work, and all that mtu will tell you is that it is something you are doing wrong, if it worked before why not now?

danny.....koowboys karaoke

[Vince Cravotta]

Yes Dan, I know what you mean. My updates are scheduled every week. I check to be sure that they have been checked. I installed the new driver for my MTU burner and when we did that, it started working like it did in the beginning. I work mostly with films and music, heavy on music projects and some of the programs were interfering with one another. I haven't added any since the unit started working again.
I continue to check on the Upper and Lower filters and they haven't changed so who knows what is causing the problem now. I have a stack of some 60 disks that have been ruined since this all started. My time invested in getting it fixed was astronominal.
What I can't imagine why it works in my regular Karaoke Machine but, won't register in the MTU Hoster setup. It keeps saying 'There is no disk in Drive.'
Appreciate your information and concern.
I don't think there is a way to slow down the recording speed on the MTU burner?

[dan matney]

No problem my man, sorry I could not help you more. To tell you the truth I have no idea why mine stopped working and no idea why it started working again. And worse than anythng dont know why sometimes it will not work.
It took me weeks to get this thing to working correctly, I sent questions to everyone I know, and no one could or at least would help me, I dont mean the forum here these are good good people here, but mtu would not respond to anything I asked them, and to this day have never heard from them about any of this stuff, I dont think mtu understands that this is my livelyhood, it is not a game or recreation to me, they will not return calls or give help of any kind except for asking someone else. I said all this just to say, sorry I can be of more help to you, I know your pain been there, with no one to help you.

kowboys karaoke

[Vince Cravotta]

Just keep after them and they will get it done. Thanks again.

[ddouglass]

Have either of you done any Hardware updates from Microsoft? Reason I ask is at least with Hoster we have found among the beta testers that Microsoft's hardware updates that they list don't work and usually end up keeping the equipment from working right. If you have be sure to go back to the MFG of the item or your computer's MFG website and get the correct drivers.
I have played the same game you guys have with a Plextor drive. It quit working for me and would tell me to insert a disk when one was already there. I thought the drive had gone south on me, but I had another (NEC drive that was working so didn't pull it out. One day (after some updates from Microsoft) it started working again. I guess nobody is perfect including Microsoft.
Anyway, Vince, are your Microstudio and Hoster on the same computer? If not are the two computers networked?
You can control the speed by right clicking on the drive and going to Properties then going to the Recording tab. The rate can be set in this.