Have Bucket, but no Songs

[bendrew]

This is what I did everytime I have some song that I can't find.

Go to c:\program files\micro technology unlimited\hoster\databases and delete all *.mdb except bucket.mdb.Then open hoster and hoster will begin building song database. Once it's done, you're back again. But now that i installed 3.319, i have to delete also all *.mdb's except bucket.mbd at this location c:\documents and settings\my name\local settings\application data\mtu\hoster\databases. Then open hoster and it will begin building the database. It always work for me, guys....

[admin]

Originally Posted by bendrew

This is what I did everytime I have some song that I can't find.

Go to c:\program files\micro technology unlimited\hoster\databases and delete all *.mdb except bucket.mdb.Then open hoster and hoster will begin building song database. Once it's done, you're back again. But now that i installed 3.319, i have to delete also all *.mdb's except bucket.mbd at this location c:\documents and settings\my name\local settings\application data\mtu\hoster\databases. Then open hoster and it will begin building the database. It always work for me, guys....

Thanks bendrew. That's about as simple as it gets.

However, if you are installing 3.319 with UPDATE, I'd suggest using REMOVE, then run the install program again and it will INSTALL. As has been pointed out, 3.319 is SUPPOSED TO auto detect all "working/modifiable files" in the old C:\Program Files\... path, move them to the new path, and delete the old (original) path copies.

3.319 moves these files (or creates them if installing on a new "non-Hoster" computer) whether you are installing under Windows 2000, XP or VISTA. Microsoft has wanted us to do this all along apparently, but failed to make it clear. With VISTA, its no longer an option, but mandatory!

[Ernie]

I did rebuild the song database, but here's the problem.
When you open the Build Songs Database box, at the bottom it says Songs database destination folder. Now, the green words are the destination.....My green destination is:
C:\Documents and Settings\Ernie Higgs.ERNIEHIGGS\local
Settings\Application Data\MTU\Hoster\Databases\
Now! Here is where it gets wierd..... I open Explore, go to C:\Documents and Settings\Ernie Higgs.ERNIEHIGGS....
THAT'S IT! There is no local Settings\Application Data\MTU\Hoster\Databases\
Now! Here is the second weird thing.... In Explore there is another Ernie Higgs in C, so I go to C:\Documents and Settings\Ernie Higgs\Local Settings\Application Data... and then it stops there. After Application Data, there is no MTU\Hoster\Databases........... I don't know how to locate my SONGS!!! In the Songs database destination folder, I have no idea how Hoster came up with that destination!!!
Since my kma files are on an external hard drive, should I just blow away Hoster and reinstall the whole program, and then do a Rebuild Song Database? Also, If I do need to blow everything away and reinstall, is the upgrade the complete program or just an upgraded section of the program?
I just want to get SONGS back into C:\program files\MTU\Hoster\Databases
Please hurry with some help... I started out with two brain cells, and now I'm down to one.

Believe me, everyone's help is truley appreciated!!!!!!

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Ernie

I did rebuild the song database, but here's the problem.
When you open the Build Songs Database box, at the bottom it says Songs database destination folder. Now, the green words are the destination.....My green destination is:
C:\Documents and Settings\Ernie Higgs.ERNIEHIGGS\local
Settings\Application Data\MTU\Hoster\Databases\
Now! Here is where it gets wierd..... I open Explore, go to C:\Documents and Settings\Ernie Higgs.ERNIEHIGGS....
THAT'S IT! There is no local Settings\Application Data\MTU\Hoster\Databases\

To see the Local Settings folder open Windows Explorer. Open Tools/Folder Options then click on the View tab up top. Change the settings to allow for viewing of hidden files and folders and the two items below that to see the extensions and system files. Then you will see that folder and all folders and files below it.

Originally Posted by Ernie

Now! Here is the second weird thing.... In Explore there is another Ernie Higgs in C, so I go to C:\Documents and Settings\Ernie Higgs\Local Settings\Application Data... and then it stops there. After Application Data, there is no MTU\Hoster\Databases........... I don't know how to locate my SONGS!!! In the Songs database destination folder, I have no idea how Hoster came up with that destination!!!

This happens when XP has aproblem with your profile. It will create a secondary profile to fix the problem area. This shouldn't be any concern though, so just leave it as it is.

Originally Posted by Ernie

Since my kma files are on an external hard drive, should I just blow away Hoster and reinstall the whole program, and then do a Rebuild Song Database? Also, If I do need to blow everything away and reinstall, is the upgrade the complete program or just an upgraded section of the program?

The upgrade is a complete program. You would not need to go back and install any previous version. As Admin said you should use the Remove instead of the Upgrade on this one. However I think you are all right and just confused. Add the external drive folder location to the list in the Build Database window and then rebuild. That should get everything back to normal. If that doesn't do it then uninstall and re-install.

Originally Posted by Ernie

I just want to get SONGS back into C:\program files\MTU\Hoster\Databases

This is something that isn't going to happen, because Microsoft (not MTU) doesn't want working files (files you or a program writes to) in the Program Files area. It really wasn't a problem until Vista came along but it is a major problem now for them. That is why MTU had to move those files.

[Ernie]

ddouglass,
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! You led me right to the file. I did drag and drop that file in it's normal place but the Song database destination folder still shows the same address, so I put it back. I then did a copy and paste. I can now use it again from the original address, but I would have to copy and paste everytime I added songs.... How come the bucket didn't move to the new address? Regardless, I'm just happy to know I didn't loose my songs.

Agani, Thanks a million
Ernie

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by Ernie

.... How come the bucket didn't move to the new address?

Because Hoster never writes to that file, it's a read only file only.

[Joe Nieves]

After Install the program made me run rebuild and I need to use access to fix file names & numbers. What happpen to Song.mdb file or do I have to use bucket.mdb file to work on fixing my database? Thx for any help with this...