what kind of mixer do you use

[capnvic]

The Bose Systems work very well in small to midsize venues, but they don't seem to hold up to mid or long term use. One KJ I know has sent two of her Bose units back for service, one time because one of the audio inputs kept eminating a buzzing sound. She does several different venues with her system. (Average 10-12 different venues a month).

I find that my Mackie DFX-12 and DFX-6 mixers work very well with my Behringer 1500 Amp and my old Yamaha Club 12's or 15's. I find that the 12" Yamahas in a room that holds 30 to 40 people is just fine. I even use the Mackie mixers with my Pyle 1600w amp with no problems whatsoever.

[muzicman144]

[quote=capnvic;69411]The Bose Systems work very well in small to midsize venues, but they don't seem to hold up to mid or long term use. One KJ I know has sent two of her Bose units back for service, one time because one of the audio inputs kept eminating a buzzing sound. She does several different venues with her system. (Average 10-12 different venues a month).

I played 450 seat room New Years Eve, 600 seat room Fri-Sat, and a 800 seat room Sun. Two Bose Towers, 4 B-1 Bass Modules, Yamaha Mixer. Bose master volume on 2. Perfect sound covering the rooms. My friend has used the Bose for Two years 5 nights a week, Never had a problem. You have to know how to operate this system. Played on the road for years, the BEST SYSTEM i have had. The only two products in connection with sound or music production that has never given me the first problem is the Bose System and Hoster.
I realize we all have different opinions, just felt the Bose was getting a little trashed.
muzicman144

[Lonman]

I'm not a big Bose fan for pro use. Tried them in my club and they didn't sound as good as my current PA.

Just upgraded my mixer froma Mackie CFX12 to a Mackie 1642 VLZ3, best purchase I have made to date. Mics are cutting through much clearer, crisper with less eq'ing.

[oncall]

I too have found the VLZ series mackie has GREAT mic pre's. Just cleaner than anything else I've tried. I wish the DFX used same pre's. Can anyone compare the yamaha (smaller) with effects to the Mackie DFX of VLZ for me?
thanks,
Randy

[muzicman144]

[quote=Lonman;69413]I'm not a big Bose fan for pro use. Tried them in my club and they didn't sound as good as my current PA.

Just as Sam said, They work Great. I feel I'm as much as a "pro" as anyone in this program. My music is "pro" and i'm proud of it. From your first post on Bose, it was obvious you didn't understand the concept of the Bose System and did not know how to get the "sound" out of it. To say it doesn't work for the "PRO" use is insulting to those of us who know what we are doing. As i told you before, you missed out on the best sound system out there. Good luck
Muzicman144

[Monolithent]

I just got myself a new toy. My wonderful wife bought me the M-Audio NRV-10 mixer for my birthday.

Still have to make a set of rackmount brackets for it (they never made them although they are advertised as an option).

I have it hooked up to my house system and it is soooo freaking cool. I'm not gonna install it in my mobile system till I get it fully figured out.

Anybody wanna buy an M-Audio Firewire 410 interface??????

[Lonman]

[quote=muzicman144;69432]

Originally Posted by Lonman

I'm not a big Bose fan for pro use. Tried them in my club and they didn't sound as good as my current PA.

Just as Sam said, They work Great. I feel I'm as much as a "pro" as anyone in this program. My music is "pro" and i'm proud of it. From your first post on Bose, it was obvious you didn't understand the concept of the Bose System and did not know how to get the "sound" out of it. To say it doesn't work for the "PRO" use is insulting to those of us who know what we are doing. As i told you before, you missed out on the best sound system out there. Good luck
Muzicman144

Take it how you want, I feel differently. I haven't heard a Bose system to date that I felt was up to pro use standards but maybe that's just my taste. I had the opportunity to test them as both a PA system (wasn't happy at all with the result) & as a monitor system which sounded awesome - too expensive to buy for monitors. Been running pro sound for bands & recording studios since '86 so I would like to think I know a little about some pa gear. My personal opinion was they weren't cracked up to the hype.

[muzicman144]

[quote=Lonman;69438]

Originally Posted by muzicman144

Take it how you want, I feel differently. I haven't heard a Bose system to date that I felt was up to pro use standards but maybe that's just my taste. I had the opportunity to test them as both a PA system (wasn't happy at all with the result) & as a monitor system which sounded awesome - too expensive to buy for monitors. Been running pro sound for bands & recording studios since '86 so I would like to think I know a little about some pa gear. My personal opinion was they weren't cracked up to the hype.

There's an old saying in the sound business that goes like this, "It Ain't The Years, It's The EARS". We all hear differently, apparently i hear something you don't, or vice versa.
At any rate, to each his own and may how you do it bring you pleasure.
muzicman

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by muzicman144

"It Ain't The Years, It's The EARS".

Exactly. And I still stand by mine.
Yes obviously you are hearing something I didn't or the rooms you are working are suited better for that type of system. I did not care for it, my current PA sounds much fuller in the club I work. To each their own.

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by capnvic

The Bose Systems work very well in small to midsize venues,

Depends how you define different sized venues but I can tell you mine have worked awsomely in every venue I've ever played

but they don't seem to hold up to mid or long term use. One KJ I know has sent two of her Bose units back for service, one time because one of the audio inputs kept eminating a buzzing sound. She does several different venues with her system. (Average 10-12 different venues a month).

1 of my towers I've used continuosly for almost 4 years. My second tower I bought used off Ebay and have used it continuosly for 3 years. I have never had a hint of a problem.
Either I'm very lucky or your friend is very unlucky. I go through the Bose forum most every other day and I see very very few people who are having problems that require service, so I would say your friend is just unlucky.

Sam

[capnvic]

I will say this of the Bose Systems, they are very easy and quick to setup and sound very good in the places I have seen them used. I never meant to imply that overall the Bose systems are inferior or bad. Just in the case mentioned, did they seem to fail in one manner or another. Maybe the KJ has had a bit of bad luck.

Will I convert from my current systems to Bose? probably not, I have already invested a lot of moola on what I have, plus I am comfortable with them.