On Line Database Doesn't Show

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by billyo

i kinda noticed that, i too was importing a bunch of cdg's and using the online data base did not return any info..i used the local database and it worked..so i just stayed away from using the online..

As long as the ones you are importing are either in the local database because you have previously added them by importing them into Hoster or the product is at least a prior to 2004 then they should be in the local database that was maintained by MTU. They found they couldn't keep up with it, so tried the FreeDB. I don't in any way disagree with you guys that this situation leaves a lot to be desired and is frustrating. Just be assured that MTU is aware of the situation and have been working to try to rectify it. This may require an additional fee (monthly, quarterly?) but it would be well worth it to not have to type them in.

[gd123]

If I am going to pay a fee, I would rather pay it direct to the DB company.

At least, I would have an input as to DB problems...which exist whether MTU provides the DB or you get it direct.

[JohnD]

An interesting discussion, but upon a re-read, I just realized I mis-stated my issue.
It's not that the data base didn't give me the disc info:
It was that when I opened the IMPORT function,
the boxes supposed to display Disc info [i.e.- brand & number] were blank.
There was nothing to select from to even begin a search.
So I couldn't even type my own info in. nor import any new discs into my system.

[I have since taken the 4.30 upgrade and things are working again.
I'm convinced that the 3.321 was somehow disconnected?
I could use Hoster.. play existing songs in my database etc..
just couldn't add anything new.]

[ddouglass]

John did you have a newer version installed and then go back to 3.321? If so that would explain why the local database did not list anything. When MTU started updating the local database (Bucket.mdb) they changed the password on it. This password is imbedded in the Hoster code to keep it hidden. By going back it tried to use the older password on the newer Bucket and failed, thus you got blank fields.
To fix this you would have to delete the newer Bucket when you re-install the older version.

The On-line database is not controlled or run by MTU, but is provided as a curteousy for users. This on-line db is from FreeDB is a free database which is updated only by users/subscribers of it. Unfortunately they really do not have that many Karaoke discs listed.
MTU chose not to participate in this update process because they want the Artist name in First Name - Last Name form and Hoster does not use that.
Instead they have chosen to update the local database from Hoster user inputs. When you import a new CD then that information is sent periodically to MTU servers for inclusion into the Bucket. To get this to you MTU updates the Hoster set-up file once a month, so you can upgrade to include the latest changes.

[JohnD]

Douglass:
As usual, clear and informative... I didn't know that, but it makes sense.

And as to the "inhouse" labeling... that's a great way to do it.

Thanks again.