Professional Musicians

[madjim- with the Lord]

muzicman144, please take the time to add your response to the poll. I too have used Hoster 3 to 5 nights a week for the past four years with no problems. Thanks MTU

Jim

[muzicman144]

Sorry, i overlooked the poll. I play guitar, sing. Hoster is the best band i ever had. most time there is no need to play guitar cuz i can't play it as well as the musicians on the tracks.
muzicman144

[muzicman144]

I guess this would be the place to address this. I have a friend who, being a very good musician who plays many instruments, makes his own tracks in his studio and uses them on the road. Doesn't this make his operation illegal just as if i didn't own the cdg tracks i use??
muzicman144

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by muzicman144

I guess this would be the place to address this. I have a friend who, being a very good musician who plays many instruments, makes his own tracks in his studio and uses them on the road. Doesn't this make his operation illegal just as if i didn't own the cdg tracks i use??
muzicman144

As long as the club pays their ascap/bmi etc fees AND he doesn't display written lyrics in public, he's good to go.

Sam

[mindonstrike]

In answer to the Poll: Karaoke alone.

But while were on the subject, does anyone no of a good source for custom backing tracks? I have found a few through yahoo in the UK but none in the US and the ones in the UK were pretty non-commital as to prices. And not having a pound key on my computer makes me wonder if I'm doing the money conversion thing correctly.

I've asked a few people in bands I've met if they would do it for money but they just hem and haw a bit and kind of sneak off, so I'm guessing it's not something they are into. It's not like I'm asking them to do it for free

Sam

[muzicman144]

Originally Posted by mindonstrike

As long as the club pays their ascap/bmi etc fees AND he doesn't display written lyrics in public, he's good to go.

Sam

Using that theory, i could use any music file i want as i also do not display written lyrics to the public. I do not do karaoke shows, but I do a show just he does, use pre-recorded tracks just as he does, usually from a karaoke disc. If i burned a track from someone else's karaoke disc and used it, is this legal if i don't display written lyrics to the public. Haven't done so to this point, but if it is legal, i certainly will do so.

muzicman144

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by muzicman144

Using that theory, i could use any music file i want as i also do not display written lyrics to the public. I do not do karaoke shows, but I do a show just he does, use pre-recorded tracks just as he does, usually from a karaoke disc. If i burned a track from someone else's karaoke disc and used it, is this legal if i don't display written lyrics to the public. Haven't done so to this point, but if it is legal, i certainly will do so.

muzicman144

No... Your earlier post indicated your friend was playing an instrument and/or using tracks he created with his instruments.
I'm sure this is an overly simplified answer for a complicated subject (lawyers make up a good chunk of the music industry) but essentially, along with the writer of the music, the performers of the music are entitled to royalties (In this case typicly it would be the karaoke manufactuer), so if you use a track copied from someone else disk, both the music writer and the performers-karaoke companies are not getting their share of the royalties that they would if you purchased your own.

Again probably overly simplified but I think fairly accurate.

Sam

[muzicman144]

Originally Posted by mindonstrike

No... Your earlier post indicated your friend was playing an instrument and/or using tracks he created with his instruments.
I'm sure this is an overly simplified answer for a complicated subject (lawyers make up a good chunk of the music industry) but essentially, along with the writer of the music, the performers of the music are entitled to royalties (In this case typicly it would be the karaoke manufactuer), so if you use a track copied from someone else disk, both the music writer and the performers-karaoke companies are not getting their share of the royalties that they would if you purchased your own.

Again probably overly simplified but I think fairly accurate.

Sam

I do believe this is an overly simplified theory. Not trying to argue here.
Just would really like to know the correct answer.

Again, We are basically doing the same thing. This musician is using self generated tracks on a computer just as i do, except i have bought the tracks i use. He is not the original song writer nor composer. No one is getting royalties from his use. The clubs i play at pay their fees to the music industry, just as they do when he plays, and i use tracks of my own, do not display written lyrics for the public to see. If your answer is correct (i'm not saying it isn't) then no one gets royalties from entertainers using self generated tracks, using a computer to play the files on the Hoster Program, or any other software of this type.
Seems to me this entertainer and i do the same thing, except the music industry gets royalties from my use and none from his use.
I just can't seem to get it through this thick head where the difference is in the legal reasoning, if there is such a thing.

muzicman144