Host without Hoster?

[bryant]

Originally Posted by bobcox

OK, I would use my disc if i had to.
we have about 12,000 cdgs.
i would have to carry about 2,400 cdgs and 1,200 cds for music, to do the same show i do now.
also about the last 600 cdgs for my main system are not in sleeves and are not in order to use.
so it would be a task to say the least, to try to do a show with disc.
and i also know I WILL NEVER HAVE TO.
I thank God & MTU for that.

Great, that is exactly what I think as well! I have got 2 or 3 backups of everything and don't expect to ever, ever, ever, use disks, and that is my WHOLE POINT!!

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by bryant

Great, that is exactly what I think as well! I have got 2 or 3 backups of everything and don't expect to ever, ever, ever, use disks, and that is my WHOLE POINT!!

That wasn't your question though. You are stating you have backup computers (or drives).
Let me pose this - let's get into legalities for a minute. IF the possibility arose that the laws absolutely state that a computer run show - transferring your discs you legally purchased to hard drive - and crackdowns arose where ANYONE using a computer was getting busted, WOULD you go back to discs or just drop out of the game altogether? I would still use Hoster as a player, just through the temp imports of each disc instead of an actual player, since the files don't actually stay on the hard drive after it's played. Still get the benefits of the computer minus the actual hard drive storage.

[muzicman144]

We could argue this point forever and i guess we would all be right to an extent. However, i think all would agree the reason we use Hoster is because it is one huge step above the alternative. I do believe that anyone who uses Hoster would never go back to the disc player because a backup computer just makes more sense than a backup disc player. It would be like a truck driver having a team of mules to replace his truck. Just doesn't make sense.

Gentlemen, Ladies, we are arguing a mute point.

muzicman144

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by muzicman144

I do believe that anyone who uses Hoster would never go back to the disc player because a backup computer just makes more sense than a backup disc player.

But you would be wrong, I already stated I - a Hoster user - would go back to discs & players if needed & could still run my show without skipping a beat. I don't have a back up computer, there is no need, I have my discs & players on site!

[muzicman144]

The need to be right is overwhelming in a lot of people.

i ASSUMED that we are talking about a malfunction that creates the necessity of choosing a disc player over Hoster, not eliminating the ability of using whatever backup one has to choosefrom. How long would it take you to get back to Hoster??????
In your prior post you stated that disc were faster, but you liked the sound better in Hoster. The fact is, re-creating the sound files in hoster does not improve the sound, but in fact the sound is not as good. In fact, hoster acknowledges this fact and has down a great job of giving the user the choice of a larger file-better sound, or a smaller file-not as good sound.
After re-reading your post, you would be, by your own statements, better off to ditch your hoster program and go back to the "ole fashioned way".

I would think that a malfunction of one's equipment in a show would be a disaster if one had to go back to the disc. The scramble to get the discs out, get organized would really be time consuming. Using the computer backup, i would be back in business in five minutes or less.

I agree with Bryan and would not go back to disc, because in reality, there is no need to make the choice. Because most of us have computer backup, the "show still goes on" and in fact, hoster gives KJs a better rep.We have the best product on the market.

I think it would interesting to hear from Hoster users on their back-up issues in case of a malfunction, or their experience with a malfunction and how they addressed it. Could be useful info for all.

i do appreciate your comments, and hope nothing is taken personally

muzicman144

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by muzicman144

The need to be right is overwhelming in a lot of people.

Oh yes that shows!

i ASSUMED that we are talking about a malfunction that creates the necessity of choosing a disc player over Hoster, not eliminating the ability of using whatever backup one has to choosefrom. How long would it take you to get back to Hoster??????

The assumption was correct, I put out a hypothetical question. How long would it take to get back to Hoster, depends on how fast I NEED to get back to Hoster - my home computer is essentially my back up, but it won't get utilized in a show, it's not built for it. So I would probably wait until I could build another show computer before I got back to Hoster - wouldn't affect my show quality at all.

In your prior post you stated that disc were faster, but you liked the sound better in Hoster. The fact is, re-creating the sound files in hoster does not improve the sound, but in fact the sound is not as good. In fact, hoster acknowledges this fact and has down a great job of giving the user the choice of a larger file-better sound, or a smaller file-not as good sound.

Well in a side by side comparison (player vs computer) - and a blind survey (obviously I knew which was which) with all other things being equal eq wise - me & our customers noticed a difference in sound & everytime picked the computer sound. Could be the soundcard quality, it is a pro grade audiophile card with balanced outputs - maybe it has it's own little processor built in that might enhance the signal - I don't know.

After re-reading your post, you would be, by your own statements, better off to ditch your hoster program and go back to the "ole fashioned way".

Well, I already stated numerous times, I LIKE the convenience of the Hoster - but I would go back to discs if need be. My customers would not know the difference, they didn't really even know when Hoster came into my show except the fact that I had to fade out & stop the songs before starting the new song - other than that, nobody really knew.

I would think that a malfunction of one's equipment in a show would be a disaster if one had to go back to the disc. The scramble to get the discs out, get organized would really be time consuming. Using the computer backup, i would be back in business in five minutes or less.

Well kind of like a malfunction of one's computer in a show would be equally disasterous. All my discs are well organized, labeled & readily accessible. Would be absolutely no 'scramble to get discs out'. Using my discs i could be up & running in less than a minute.

I agree with Bryan and would not go back to disc, because in reality, there is no need to make the choice. Because most of us have computer backup, the "show still goes on" and in fact, hoster gives KJs a better rep.We have the best product on the market.

Yes Hoster is the best on the market I believe that as well! But my show would go on just a smooth with or without it. I can see for sure it might give a better 'rep' to those who didn't know how to use discs in a speedy manner. I have watched some kj's that used discs - literally play the song. When the song was over, they would THEN look for the next song & cue it up, call the next singer, start the song. At least a minute downtime in between each song. Hoster would definitely be a GREAT improvement for that type of show. For a show that was already fast to begin with, I seriously doubt it would be the make or break of a kj rep.