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Old December 20th, 2006, 02:04 PM
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I must be in dense mode.

Hoster can import CDG, BIN, MP3G, and ZIP files from the hard drive.

Microstudio users have no need for anything other than track titles and artist to import and titles to efficiently find imported files. Disc id's are dead weight in Microstudio.

What's the rational in making Microstudio a conduit for Hoster for CDG and BIN files that Hoster can import on its own?
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Old December 21st, 2006, 02:04 PM
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Bin Vs. Zip Files

Admin-so what you are saying is sound quality wise, we should only be converting our CDG's to bin files not to zip files.

Are KMA files from the CDG (192 kbs) smaller or larger that BIN files?

Sound quality is very important to me and I only want to convert my CDG's to BIN or ZIP's just in case I ever need to re-install them and yes I do have a backup of all my KMA files but you never know......
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Old December 21st, 2006, 02:50 PM
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Admin-so what you are saying is sound quality wise, we should only be converting our CDG's to bin files not to zip files.
Are KMA files from the CDG (192 kbs) smaller or larger that BIN files?

Sound quality is very important to me and I only want to convert my CDG's to BIN or ZIP's just in case I ever need to re-install them and yes I do have a backup of all my KMA files but you never know......
BIN files aren't compressed. Look with windows explorer at the sizes and they will be 30 to 40 MB for an average length track. KMA files are compressed and with normal compression (middle number....I forget what it is ) will be 1/10th of that or 3 to 4 MB. The way I see it the BIN format in Microstudio is good for making a custom disc with the highest quality, but if I am loading Hoster I want to do it direct from CDG disc to KMA files rather than try to store all those large BIN files and import them.

Once you have a good import (no screen noise or glitches and good sound) into Hoster then you should not have to keep any BIN files because with MS you can now add KMA files to the write list and burn them to a Karaoke disc as full uncompressed CDGs. What more could you ask for! The only thing I can think of that Microstudio and Hoster won't do for us is to convert and load those pita SCDG discs.....yet(?)
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Old December 21st, 2006, 02:50 PM
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Admin-so what you are saying is sound quality wise, we should only be converting our CDG's to bin files not to zip files.

Are KMA files from the CDG (192 kbs) smaller or larger that BIN files?

Sound quality is very important to me and I only want to convert my CDG's to BIN or ZIP's just in case I ever need to re-install them and yes I do have a backup of all my KMA files but you never know......
I think what he was saying the bin files are higher quality sound than the zip (mp3+g zipped).

also the .kma file is better sound than the mp3+g. I would store my files as .kma files rather tham .bin files, as they are verry much smaller with the same audio quality. But that is my opinion.

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Microstudio users have no need for anything other than track titles and artist to import and titles to efficiently find imported files. Disc id's are dead weight in Microstudio
George,
I would have to disagree. This would be true of some users. but wont fit all. I prefer to have the disk number and track senario, as I may have several versions of the same song by the same artist, and some customers prefer one over the other. But Then again this is My opinion, and what I prefer. To make a statement that Microstudio users as a group have no need for something, Makes you the spokesperson for all the people here. If you dont need the track, and disk number rename the file. I have a freeware program called "Batchname" that will rename a whole directory of files in a second.
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Old December 21st, 2006, 06:13 PM
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I was simply expressing an opinion.. Sorry if it came across wrong.

Doesn't matter that much to me anyway. Simply putting the title in both the title and artist entry blocks, or reversing the inputs if both are used solves the problem and, case closed.

Much easier than renaming files.
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Old December 27th, 2006, 06:36 AM
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1. Admin-so what you are saying is sound quality wise, we should only be converting our CDG's to bin files not to zip files.

2. Are KMA files from the CDG (192 kbs) smaller or larger that BIN files?

3. Sound quality is very important to me and I only want to convert my CDG's to BIN or ZIP's just in case I ever need to re-install them and yes I do have a backup of all my KMA files but you never know......
1. BIN files are identical quality and file size to the original CDG disc - no difference.

2. KMA files are significantly smaller than BIN files. At 128Kb, users with 2000 watt systems report they don't hear any quality difference from the CDG disc, so I would recommend you use this ratio selection. At 96Kb, the size is about 1/10th that of the same BIN file, but you can hear some "compression hiss" at 96Kb with 2000 watt systems.

3. BIN is equal to the master disc, while 128Kb KMA is "technically" less quality (not audible to the human ear), while MP3 at 128Kb will have audible hiss (as reported to us, not that my 58yo ears can hear it) and will be inferior to the same KMA file compressed directly from a BIN file or imported direct from the CDG disc.
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