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Old December 8th, 2006, 12:43 AM
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Obviously you aren't listening either since I said I agreed it is not the hardware but could be the Software that runs the hardware. I asked for the hardware only to understand what kind of system we are discussing as unlike cars there are many versions of computers, operating systems, and settings.

Since this seems to be an isolated problem to a very few users then it must be the Hoster software that is causing the problem. Is that your point?

If version 3.301 (3.302 and 3.303 don't work either?) is the one that works for them then maybe they should stick to that version until 4.0 comes out next year and try again then.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 01:45 AM
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let me ask you this ???

If there are ten diff unit's and all ten have the same problems
with playing the kma's from cd import and you can play them fine
on any version 3.301 and before what do you think ??

look I like you are just trying to help out some one who does not know a whole lot about things like this and I have been around computers for 30 years and have seen stranger thing's then this that were code related

so I would like to stop this conversation for now and lets see what is found if anything

good luck to you who ever you are don't know if you work for mtu or just a user but since I see you post to all most every post in here I think you work for mtu good luck in finding the problem

have a happy holydays
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Old December 8th, 2006, 06:26 AM
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Bill, thank you for your details. I understand what you are saying. It appears there may be some problem in Hoster that is worsened by certain hardware/software system configs. I think that may be what is happening here. Clearly, 3.301 works fine and 3.313 doesn't for your mate. That's pretty good proof that something in Hoster changed.

The other fact is thousands of others have downloaded 3.313 and this is the only Thread reporting this problem. It happens on a very few systems. Go figure!

We can search code till the cows come home and not find anything. If we have the problem appear in our testing, we can nail it in a skinny minute. The files you sent up earlier did not re-produce the problem at MTU, so sending more files probably won't either. That's another reason why we all have been saying it is the system config.

We've got a really tight deadline the end of this month that we are working on now. Given the few systems (including your mate's) that exhibit this, I can't shift our focus back to Hoster at this time.

We'll document this and take a look in January at what code changed. We'll compare 3.301 to 3.313, in the code areas that could possibly cause the problem you are reporting.

From the current facts, I expect we will find something deep in Hoster. Just can't do it right now. Sometimes, waiting turns up more folks with the problem and then, one day, a single post contains the key we need to find and solve it. So, we're watching for who else sees this and reports "different" details.

Return your mate to 3.301 for now. That's the only work-around I can offer at this time.

BTW: Ddouglass is not an MTU employee. He is one of our Beta Testers, so he is "closer" than most to what is going on at MTU. He's a fine fellow, and a great technical diagnostician. He has helped many solve problems. I know he's just trying to overcome your and our frustration. He knows MTU hates to have a single problem lurking out there for anyone to hit... and so does he.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 08:51 AM
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Bill,
As Admin said I am not an employee of MTU, but just a customer like yourself who has a bit of experience with computers and electronic equipment (I have lost count at 40 yrs ). I have always hated frustrating problems like this and I tend to take to it like a dog to a bone. All I was trying to do was to eliminate all possibilities knowing MTU is undermanned and overworked trying to make the best possible programs for us.
Bill from me and mine to you and yours have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. (Where is the Santa smiley??)
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Old December 8th, 2006, 10:59 AM
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one other thing to add

I thought I read that you change the way hoster handles the video
so it could run on more v cards

now that said I took a look at two files that I think are more likely to make the audio problem happen

what seems to be happing is hoster is having a hard time loading video and audio at the same time
once you hit the play button

so the songs that start's both audio and video at once or songs that start audio and then try to load video while audio is playing (only at the start of the song)

this is some place you should also take a look at
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Old December 9th, 2006, 01:11 PM
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Many users do not take the time to Post.

The problem is mentioned and is current.

Many Users have shows that do NOT sing Country.

Many Users play background music as the next song is queuing. They wouldn't hear the problem.

Many Users are poor KJs...wouldn't care.

Many Users wouldn't know a problem it jumped up at
'em.

Many Users don't care to Post. Why mention the problem again...if it's already stated.

etc..
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