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Old February 8th, 2006, 09:07 AM
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Still Working On HD Reimport

I have received excellent help from Gduns, Nreel, Beavis, and ADMIN on this before. I think my problem is that I haven't stated my situation clearly. Please let me try again?

1) I imported a disc of 15 songs, assigned it Disc ID 4-05, and the book ID to 405.

2) Track number 15 was unsatisfactory and needs to be reimported.

3) I have a good copy of track 15 as a bin file in a folder on the HD.

4) As previously advised, I prefaced this filename with
405-15 - and this worked quite well.

5) When I click "add files" the file DOES come up on the track list with the correct song title and artist and as track
number 15 disc id 4-05.

6) I now assign book ID as 405 so this track will have a final book ID of 40515 , consistent with others from the disc.

7) When I click on "import file" here is where I get the message "Book ID already in use, please assign another Book ID".

I believe the program, at this point, checks for existing book ID's and DOES NOT allow any way to append to the existing when reimporting from the HD.

However, I have re-imported tracks from discs and it DOES append to existing book ID's quite well. But does not allow this to happen from the HD.

I wonder if I start over (erase all disc ID 405 files) and import track 15 from the HD first, then import the other 14 tracks from the disc afterwards.

I really appreciate all your guidance thus far, but am still in need of your help, Please, as I have several discs I have to do this to.

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Old February 8th, 2006, 09:30 AM
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BRYANT,
I cannot say this for certain, But I think the problem is you are trying to mix cdg tracks with hdbin tracks with the same diskid.

In other words if you had imported all 15 tracks from harddrive, it may have worked.

or if you had imported all 15 tracks from cdg, it may have worked.

I don't believe it will let you mix them.

a suggestion maybe would be to burn a cd-rw with 14 dummy tracks (anysongs), and burn the 15th track, with the one from the harddrive. Only import that 1 track to that diskid. it should work.

you caould save this disk, and anytime you have a bad track 15 , erase the 15th track, and reuse the disk.
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Old February 8th, 2006, 09:46 AM
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gduns, Man, thanx a lot for that excellent tip!

I can always count on you, can't I.

Once I close a cd-rw however, will it simply let me re-write over it, or do I actually have to reformat it again. I haven't done much with rewriteables lately. They used to be "not so" dependable but perhaps they are easier to work with now.
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Old February 8th, 2006, 09:48 AM
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I am not sure, I have heard of others doing this, but I dont think you finalize or close a cd-rw. Others may be able to tell you.
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Old February 8th, 2006, 10:50 AM
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Old February 8th, 2006, 10:54 AM
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Beavis,
using MS access is a bad idea. a lot of the people on this board are barely computer literate. That is way........ to advanced for most users to get into.

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Old February 8th, 2006, 11:02 AM
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Ah, Beavis, yes, I went to the kma folder and deleted track number 15. Now the folder contains only 405-1.kma thru 405-14.kma. Re-tried the whole process and still got the "book ID already in use" message.


Gduns had a good suggestion, but do you think that maybe
if I start over by deleting all 405-xx.kma files then import the HD bin file first, follow that with the reimport of the 14 good files from the disc. Think that might work?

It seems that reimporting from discs allows appending to existing book ID's. I'm not sure if the program cares about where the previous files come from (either HD or disc) as gdun hypothesized. But it may be true that one cannot mix HD and disc imports?

Whatya think?

What would you do?

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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Old February 8th, 2006, 11:07 AM
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if I start over by deleting all 405-xx.kma files then import the HD bin file first, follow that with the reimport of the 14 good files from the disc. Think that might work?
If you delete those files, then do a database rebuild.

Then and only then will hoster not see the bookid you entered (405).

You can then import all of the files from the Hd. (with book id of 405)
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Old February 8th, 2006, 06:20 PM
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BRYANT,
I cannot say this for certain, But I think the problem is you are trying to mix cdg tracks with hdbin tracks with the same diskid.

In other words if you had imported all 15 tracks from harddrive, it may have worked.

or if you had imported all 15 tracks from cdg, it may have worked.

I don't believe it will let you mix them.

a suggestion maybe would be to burn a cd-rw with 14 dummy tracks (anysongs), and burn the 15th track, with the one from the harddrive. Only import that 1 track to that diskid. it should work.

you caould save this disk, and anytime you have a bad track 15 , erase the 15th track, and reuse the disk.
I mix 'em all the time when I'm trying to conserve rootid#s. I think the dash in the diskid is the culprit.
Based on what I remember about a post from songpony was Hoster will let you use a dash in the diskid when importing from cdg, but it will not let you use one importing from HD.
I don't recall if songpony found a solution.

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Old February 8th, 2006, 07:02 PM
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Yes, Beavis, Do you have any suggestions? without having to burn a whole new disk each time. As I tried the cd-rw and that didn't burn very well at all. kept saying disc is not empty , when in fact it was?


Can you help me here please?
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Old February 8th, 2006, 07:24 PM
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how about i walk you through it over the phone thursday morning ?? i will call you. i have nationwide verizon, so its free.

email me through this method

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Old February 12th, 2006, 11:48 AM
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I mix 'em all the time when I'm trying to conserve rootid#s. Sam
How exactly do you mix them all up (imports from HD and imports of cdg tracks) with the same bookroot ID. Mine gets all the way to the import checked disc, THEN and only THEN is the problem. It lets you assign the root ID that matches the current diskID, the checks to see if its already in use, then doesn't allow a second use from the other type of import.

Mind, can you please tell me how you did in fact do this.
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Old February 13th, 2006, 05:41 AM
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How exactly do you mix them all up (imports from HD and imports of cdg tracks) with the same bookroot ID. Mine gets all the way to the import checked disc, THEN and only THEN is the problem. It lets you assign the root ID that matches the current diskID, the checks to see if its already in use, then doesn't allow a second use from the other type of import.

Mind, can you please tell me how you did in fact do this.
Just title the file with the diskid that is assigned to that rootid. As soon as you click add files the rootid should pop up on it's own. If you have to enter it then Hoster thinks the diskid's are different for some reason. Sometimes that reason is obvious only once you figure it out.

Essentially I do the same as Nreels post#5 except I use manuf diskids such as PHMR0502 instead of the bookids as diskids as well, but it should all work the same.
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Old February 13th, 2006, 11:49 AM
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MindonStrike;
I believe that is exactly what I have done.
... and the disk ID is picked up as the current
one I am trying to add new songs to... BUT the
root ID still asks me for input(instead of putting in the originally assigned root ID from the disc import).

What can I possibly be doing wrong? Are you absolutely sure that you use "same root IDs between HD and disc imports

I thought I was really getting quite good at this program to this point, but this one is still reaaaaly buggin' me..
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Old February 13th, 2006, 08:38 PM
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Not sure what else to suggest except do a database search or edit song search for those book ids and make sure the diskid and brand come up as you are expecting.
Not recomended but worse comes to worse you can always force it to work.
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