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Old August 10th, 2005, 08:43 PM
Smallan Smallan is offline
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Maybe not such a bad idea in that specific case, tho I don't really like doing backings only in a karaoke situation, as the audience like to see the lyrics. With respect to all the '10 seconds of silence intro' songs (Sunfly for example) that others like to sing I'd be looking for another way.

With reference to the idea of having two Hosters open, can I open Hoster number two and cue a song while Hoster number one is outputting to my audio mixer? When Hoster number one's song finishes, how do I transfer Hoster number two to output.

BTW I have purchased Hoster but haven't used it yet as I haven't installed my Plextor and imported any songs yet, so please excuse the ignorance.

Later: Just saw your post George, so could I edit audio and graphics in Karaoke Home Producer?
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Old August 10th, 2005, 10:02 PM
George George is offline
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Later: Just saw your post George, so could I edit audio and graphics in Karaoke Home Producer?
No, and didn't mean to give that impression. After the audio track was edited
as heydjbren suggested, you could then create a new cdg with KHP. Just another option.

I don't see that opening two Hosters would be any advantage in this instance. I gathered there was a question as to whether two Hosters could be opened and simply said they could.

George
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Old August 11th, 2005, 11:27 AM
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OK thanks. Now that I've gone full circle I think I'll go and lie down!
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Old August 17th, 2005, 09:35 AM
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I have also tried a few options to get around this problem , without success.

I tried having two applications of hoster open, Application 1 with the current song playing, and Application 2 cued up and paused (using the seconds counter to take out the intro length).

Unfortunately it does not work

1. You have to stop Application 1 and switch over to Application 2, this can be a problem if there is a long fade out, as the music will suddenly stop.

2. When you press PLAY on Application 2, many times the song you have just stopped in Application 1 will start up again.

I have put a request into the required funtionality forum for the ability to cue the start (and stop) point of the songs, I am really impressed with Hoster, but this is the only draw back.

Cheers

Tom
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Old August 17th, 2005, 09:50 AM
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I'm curious.

There really aren't that many songs that have excessively long lead in instrumentals; for sure they are not the rule, and the probability of having them fall back to back in the line up is pretty slim, so what is really such a problem?

Are we really trying to get rid of the CDG Manufacturer's logo that takes a few seconds before the track starts(with the exception of those who were smart enough to have the audio start while their credits are on screen), and just putzin' around saying so?

Not trying to be argumentative, just can't help wondering.

George

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Old August 17th, 2005, 10:10 AM
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Sorry George

I should have clarified, it was the silence for the duration of the maunfacturers logo that I was trying to delete, not the instrumental intro.

As Smallan noted, if you have a crowd on the dance floor the silence between songs is a pain, and has to be covered by talking over it.

It is not an issue when using Hoster for singers, but at the end of the night we do dance sets when I sing. This is where the problem arises.

Tom
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Old August 17th, 2005, 11:10 AM
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Thanks Tom,

That's what I was thinking, which brings up another question.

Would cueing past the Mfgr's logo constitute unauthorized altering of copywritten material at a public performance? No doubt the Mfgr's would answer resounding YES to that one, but I wonder what the ruling really would be under the copywrite laws.

I would tend to think it would be illegal, but that's just an opinion based on how limited one's usage of copywritten material really is. You can make a backup and you can play it, seems to be about it.

MTU has already built in legal cueing, although some don't realize it. That's what the playlist does, cue up the next song in AUTO PLAY, and allow you to set the time between tracks, but I wonder about altering any portion of the track, beyond key change, which is not a material alteration.

Perhaps ADMIN can enlighten us on that one.

Take care,

George
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