MP3+G Conversion

[AWareent]

Hello Everyone,

I have decided to become a member of this board for one reason.

I think Hoster is a stable program.

The program I was using to do my Karaoke shows I just could not get stable. Anyone encountered this?

My previous program used MP3+G as a format. Correct me if I'm wrong, Hoster uses KMA format for the Karaoke songs.

Now I have all of these MP3+G's and no way to convert to something Hoster uses. How do you do it? Can you do it?

Thanks and great to be a member!
Chris
AWare Entertainment

[MTUSUPPORT]

Welcome Aboard!

Currently you would have to import all of your MP3+G files back into the computer from the CD's into Hoster, to create the .kma files.

We are trying to get the licensing worked out for the legal use of MP3, so in the future we are planning to be able to play the MP3+G files.

[Beavis]

so bryan are you saying hoster can import mp3-g ??

[MTUSUPPORT]

Beavis,
No, not yet. We are trying to work out the Licensing for the use of .mp3 files in our software. We have been trying to get this done for a few months now, but have had no response from the licensing company for .mp3 yet.

We are hoping to add it in the future though.

[jahern]

Originally Posted by BEAVIS

so bryan are you saying hoster can import mp3-g ??

I was confused for a second on Bryan's instruction as well, but I think I understand it now a little more.

Quote:
"import all of your MP3+G files back into the computer from the CD's"

I think it means that all the mp3+g songs, naturally (and legally), presumedly exist on CD's currently in AWareent's possession. He/she would have to import them again onto the computer from the cd's. Of course they would not exist in the mp3+g format, but in the Hoster KMA format.

[AWareent]

Hi Everyone,

Yes! I do have all of the original CD+G's. Used another program to ripp them into MP3+G's. So, instead of re-ripping, I wanted to convert the MP3+G's to KMA's for Hoster.

The Other program was not cutting it for stability.

Now....STUPID QUESTION TIME .....

My other program converts to BIN. I can convert to BIN, burn to CD, place that cd back into computer's drive, and then re-ripp to KMA using Hoster???? Is that right???

That would save some time .....all of the file info would still be there? I can still use the BookID funtion and still print the songbook through Hoster????

Thanks,
Chris
AWare Entertainment

[George]

I must be in dense mode, but I fail to see the time savings with what you propose as compared to simply importing to Hoster direct from the original cdg's, since they have to be imported into Hoster a disc at a time, which is where you're ending up after all the converting is done anyway

George

[mindonstrike]

Ditto what George said. Also there's the quality loss factor. When you ripped to mp3g you lost some audio quality, how much of course depends on your compression rate. Most of the mp3g's I've seen were compressed at 128kbs, the loss at that rate would be miniscule, however when you convert back to cdg that loss is still there (or not there? ) ,now when you compress to KMA's you will experience an extra round of quality loss unless you use the least amount of compression available in which case your KMA files would be rather large.

The loss in all this may be so negligable as to be irelevent, I don't know, just throwing out as something you might want to investigate/think about.

Sam

[AWareent]

Yea....you might have a point......it is just hard to face ripping those CD+G's all over again.......

Regards,
Chris

[dmd1782]

Please let me know when you get this capablility.
I have 60 gigs of mp3+g that I run my show with
I hate the thought of ripping my 700+ cds again.
It took about 6 months of my free time.
I would like to purchase your progam, but I'm holding off for that reason alone.

Greetings,

[dmd1782]

How long does it take for you to copy a cd to kma or whatever format hoster takes.. I've got all the orginal cds, but there are 700+.. That will take me another 6 months of my spare time to do.. The headers on my mp3s are fine..
If they could come up with a converson, just let the computer work instead of me .. I can live with the time involved.. And my audio quality is great.. So don't have to worry about that.

Greetings
-David-

[CochrellGary]

Loading a CDG into Hoster takes me from 15 to 20 minutes per CDG.

Gary

[admin]

I don't have time for a long answer right now. Let me give you all some fast facts:

* We have MP3+G now playing on our develeopment systems and MP3 will be trivial. Thus, you will be able to go find a mp3g song and add it to the playlist in Hoster, along with WMA and KMA songs, and also mp3.

* The mp3g will NOT initially be in the Songs database or Song book. That will take modifying the Import Track structure to allow importing them into the Songs Database. I expect we will do some sort of batch import, and then you would use the Edit Song command to open those files in Select Single mode) and set the song Parameters, unless... we can count on the id3 header being all one way. Still, you will need to edit them in some way. They pretty much all us the same psychoacoustic removal techniques, so batch conversion to KMA versus reimporting should not sound any worse than your MP3G files do now. However, importing from the CDG disc to KMA directly would sound better. Your choice... time saved versus quality improvement over what you now have... and have been happy with.

* We have reapplied for the MP3 license and expect to have it before much longer. If not, we can always do what our competitors do and direct you to the lame.dll... if the MP3 licensing group doesn't want our money.

* Using mp3 compressed files and converting them to wma will NOT damage it any more. The mp3 has the worst losses, and our audio compression experts worldwide we have talked to for decades tell us that "decompressing a type 1 file and recompressing it with type 2 compression will add no additional damage."

That's all for now. Hope this helps stear the posts in this thread in the correct directions.

[SteveWalker]

Mike,

I like Hoster but I ripped all my files to mp3+g before Hoster was first released. It's too much work to rip it again in Hoster. MTU has done many improvements to Hoster and they provide great support. If Hoster can play mp3+g files I may take the plunge.

Steve