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Old August 17th, 2004, 12:11 AM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

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You need to set the display for dual screen in Properties/ settings. It is too difficult for me to explain, but if MTU hasn't, may someone jump in. If it isnt your card of the display driver, then it could be something listed below. (I hope not).
There is no option available to set the display to dual screen. (That I can find). I followed the directions to the best of my ability and that particular setting option is not mentioned.
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Don't act so fast as to delete your drive yet, until you do some checking.
I have been fighting this display problem for ..... Approaching 1 full year. I hardly think that I am "Acting so fast". Re-installing the operating system has cleared up numurous problems for me in the past. No guarentees but, nothing else has worked either.
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Your problem sounds like a system resources one, and nothing to do with Hoster or the ATI card.
I have not accused Hoster or MTU. (I still remain open minded about the card).
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How much memory do you have?
523,808 kb
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The use of the computer before using Hoster, The amount and type of other programs installed.
The HD was re-formatted and the operating system was installed from scratch just prior to installing Hoster for the first time. With the exception of a file transfer program, (WinMX), all other applocations on the computer are karaoke related but, only Hoster runs durring a show.
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How much of your hard drive is allowed to be used for excess memory
"Excess Memory"? I'll go out on a limb and presume that you are refering to Virtual Memory. Total Virtual Memory is 1,799,960 kb and the page file is 1,276,152 kb
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Are other programs running silently in the background?
Um? It's Windows.
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Do you have too many songs installed on an uncompressed drive?
Or is your drive almost full?
Does your screen shrink when you use any other program?
Do you have some icons on your desktop as copies and not as shortcuts?
A lot of questions, I know, but should be checked.
No.
No. Only 1 disk, 28 Gig of free space or, 40% free
No. Hoster is the only program I have that is designed to use multiple screens.
No. All were placed there by installation programs. (Operating system, Hoster install, etc..)
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Something must be hogging the space on your drive, making less room for Hosters songs to display effectly on the full screen, therefor I suppose something in the OS reduces the window to display the file.
Check all of the above, I think any single one of them can cause what you experience.
I Appologize if some of my answers come off as Snide or "Skuck-up" but, having been a computer programmer for right at about 20 years now, my experiance tells me that it is highly unlikely that a near-full HD, (Which I don't have anyway), could be the cause of a failed Video card install. (I have learned to never say "Impossible", but..... Hmmmm)
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Old August 17th, 2004, 02:21 PM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

I copied this information from the internet .
Is it or is it not a dual screen card?

Basic Information

Description: Radeon 7500 All-In-Wonder VE Video Card (64MB, PCI, 2D/3D w/TV-Out)
Manufacturer: ATI
Lowest Price: $145.00
User Rating: (4.50 / 5.00) - (Read 2 Reviews)
Detailed Specifications
Type of Video Card: 2D/3D Video w/TV Support
Color Depth at Maximum Resolution: 16.7 Million Colors (32-bit)
Functionality: Video Capture
Interface Type: Video - 15 pin High-Density D-shell (VGA), Video - 4 pin mini-DIN (S-Video)
Refresh Rate at Max Resolution: 75 Hz
Resolution: 1024 x 768 (XGA), 1280 x 1024 (SXGA), 1600 x 1200 (UXGA), 2048 x 1536, 800 x 600 (SVGA)
Slot/Port Type: PCI
System Type: PC
Video Chipset: ATI RADEON
Video Standard Supported: NTSC (analog)
Installed Video Memory: 64 MB
Memory Technology: DDR-SDRAM (DDRRAM)
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Old August 17th, 2004, 02:25 PM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

It is, I own the very same card.
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Old August 17th, 2004, 02:36 PM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

DITTO

Works great.
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Old August 17th, 2004, 02:53 PM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

Any comments on other things I mentioned previously. Do you see the tv montor and the computer in the display window in Display/Settings, so you can select one or both? I ask because you have the same card and he see only one.
I have a ATI 9000 so my settinge might be different from his, so I can't help with the 7500.
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Old August 17th, 2004, 06:51 PM
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Any comments on other things I mentioned previously. Do you see the tv montor and the computer in the display window in Display/Settings, so you can select one or both? I ask because you have the same card and he see only one.
I have a ATI 9000 so my settinge might be different from his, so I can't help with the 7500.
When I go to the display properties screen, I see only one monitor, not two as I am lead to beleive that I should. I have been running Hoster this way for just goiong on a year now, and only rescently became aware that it was not right.

Yet, when I click on the Display Properties>Settings>Advanced>Displays tab, I am able to activate or deactivate either display device as I like. When not in Clone mode, (I try to keep it out of clone mode), it behaves as one large monitor with each physical display showing 1/2 of the total window. The top half, where I have all my icons and such, is the KJ's display and the lower half is the singers display. I can pick up an icon or other object, and drag it off the bottom of the KJ's display and it reapears on the top of the singers display. All in one smooth motion. Untill a little over a month or so ago, I litterally thought that this was normal. Then I heard other KJ's talking here and discovered that it was not.

In spite of numorus attempts to re-install the card, new and latest drivers, etc.. It still refuses to show me two monitors on the Display Properties screen.
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Old August 17th, 2004, 09:36 PM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

I did some research for you. Happy surfing

http://www.dogriverdesign.com/produc...2002-08-01.asp
http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips523.html
http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips523.html
Or perforn a search for "Setting up dual screens"
I found not too much here
"Setting up ATI 7500 dual screen"
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Old August 24th, 2004, 08:06 PM
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I did some research for you. Happy surfing

http://www.dogriverdesign.com/produc...2002-08-01.asp
http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips523.html
http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips523.html
Or perforn a search for "Setting up dual screens"
I found not too much here
"Setting up ATI 7500 dual screen"
I checked them all out and found nothing of value.
Looks like I'm just going to have to accept the fact that my video card is defective, has been all along I didn't have the experince to even recognize it.

Sence I am going to have to replace my video card, can anybody recomend a good card that is not too expensive? I am in the poor-house as it is. :(

P.S. I thought I saw a post, some time ago and I can't find it now, that it is also possible to install 2 seperate (Standard), video cards. (Just have to select 1 of them as the primary in the BIOS. Has anybody tried this? Does it work? (With Hoster?)
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Old August 17th, 2004, 03:24 PM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

I gave all these causes as possible solutions. Because on my other computer when I run PhotoShop, and open several images at the same time for editing, the program can handle it for a while. But eventually the screens start to get smaller as you experience.

Are you letting windows set your visual effects or another choice.
Properties/Advanced/performance/settings. Go deeper to Visual effects/Advance. Mine is set to "Adlust to best performance". and in Visual effects/Advance, "Programs". To use the greater share of processor run time, and share of memory.
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Old August 17th, 2004, 07:00 PM
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Are you letting windows set your visual effects or another choice.
Properties/Advanced/performance/settings. Go deeper to Visual effects/Advance. Mine is set to "Adlust to best performance". and in Visual effects/Advance, "Programs". To use the greater share of processor run time, and share of memory.
Hmmm?? There is no "Advanced" tab off the "Properties" dialog. Might be a difference between our cards. Either way, all of the important settings, (that I know about), are set as was recomended by MTU in a statement rerarding audio drop-outs. (They are rare and I am usually the only one that notices).
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