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Old August 10th, 2004, 07:02 AM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

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My Video card is the ATI Radon All-In-Wonder 7500. I purchased it because it was available at the computer store and was on the recomended list for use with Hoster.

I have attempted all manor of resolutions and colors but right now, it's set to 640x480 and high color 16 bit.

If I could just get the blasted thing to install corectly, I wouldn't have these problems. :( But it refuses. :(
is your video card built by ATI or powered by ATI ??? it makes a big difference !! do you have all the updates from ATI's website ??
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Old August 10th, 2004, 11:05 AM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

Bob,
Go to www.ati.com and get the latest driver updates for this board.
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Old August 16th, 2004, 08:13 PM
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Bob,
Go to www.ati.com and get the latest driver updates for this board.
Everything that I know to download and install updates for has been done but the problem persists. it "IS" in extended desktop mode but still shows me only 1 monitor on the display propertys screen. Even though it recognizes that there are multiple monitors installed.

I am now seriously considering re-formatting my HD and re-installine everything from scratch but I am FEARFULL of your anti-piracy routines. I dont know how they will respond to such an action. I they think I am trying to pirate Hoster, it might take days to get it fixed and loosing so much as a day, will likely put me out of business for good.

Can you clue me on how to SAFELY do this?
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Old August 16th, 2004, 10:41 PM
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it "IS" in extended desktop mode but still shows me only 1 monitor on the display propertys screen.
You need to set the display for dual screen in Properties/ settings. It is too difficult for me to explain, but if MTU hasn't, may someone jump in. If it isnt your card of the display driver, then it could be something listed below. (I hope not)

Don't act so fast as to delete your drive yet, until you do some checking.
Your problem sounds like a system resources one, and nothing to do with Hoster or the ATI card.
It may be hard for someone not knowing your particular computer to pinpoint the cause, because it can be so many.

How much memory do you have?
The use of the computer before using Hoster, The amount and type of other programs installed.
How much of your hard drive is allowed to be used for excess memory
Are other programs running silently in the background?
Do you have too many songs installed on an uncompressed drive?
Or is your drive almost full?
Does your screen shrink when you use any other program?
Do you have some icons on your desktop as copies and not as shortcuts?
A lot of questions, I know, but should be checked.
Something must be hogging the space on your drive, making less room for Hosters songs to display effectly on the full screen, therefor I suppose something in the OS reduces the window to display the file.
Check all of the above, I think any single one of them can cause what you experience.

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Old August 17th, 2004, 12:11 AM
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You need to set the display for dual screen in Properties/ settings. It is too difficult for me to explain, but if MTU hasn't, may someone jump in. If it isnt your card of the display driver, then it could be something listed below. (I hope not).
There is no option available to set the display to dual screen. (That I can find). I followed the directions to the best of my ability and that particular setting option is not mentioned.
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Don't act so fast as to delete your drive yet, until you do some checking.
I have been fighting this display problem for ..... Approaching 1 full year. I hardly think that I am "Acting so fast". Re-installing the operating system has cleared up numurous problems for me in the past. No guarentees but, nothing else has worked either.
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Your problem sounds like a system resources one, and nothing to do with Hoster or the ATI card.
I have not accused Hoster or MTU. (I still remain open minded about the card).
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How much memory do you have?
523,808 kb
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The use of the computer before using Hoster, The amount and type of other programs installed.
The HD was re-formatted and the operating system was installed from scratch just prior to installing Hoster for the first time. With the exception of a file transfer program, (WinMX), all other applocations on the computer are karaoke related but, only Hoster runs durring a show.
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How much of your hard drive is allowed to be used for excess memory
"Excess Memory"? I'll go out on a limb and presume that you are refering to Virtual Memory. Total Virtual Memory is 1,799,960 kb and the page file is 1,276,152 kb
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Are other programs running silently in the background?
Um? It's Windows.
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Do you have too many songs installed on an uncompressed drive?
Or is your drive almost full?
Does your screen shrink when you use any other program?
Do you have some icons on your desktop as copies and not as shortcuts?
A lot of questions, I know, but should be checked.
No.
No. Only 1 disk, 28 Gig of free space or, 40% free
No. Hoster is the only program I have that is designed to use multiple screens.
No. All were placed there by installation programs. (Operating system, Hoster install, etc..)
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Something must be hogging the space on your drive, making less room for Hosters songs to display effectly on the full screen, therefor I suppose something in the OS reduces the window to display the file.
Check all of the above, I think any single one of them can cause what you experience.
I Appologize if some of my answers come off as Snide or "Skuck-up" but, having been a computer programmer for right at about 20 years now, my experiance tells me that it is highly unlikely that a near-full HD, (Which I don't have anyway), could be the cause of a failed Video card install. (I have learned to never say "Impossible", but..... Hmmmm)
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Old August 17th, 2004, 02:21 PM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

I copied this information from the internet .
Is it or is it not a dual screen card?

Basic Information

Description: Radeon 7500 All-In-Wonder VE Video Card (64MB, PCI, 2D/3D w/TV-Out)
Manufacturer: ATI
Lowest Price: $145.00
User Rating: (4.50 / 5.00) - (Read 2 Reviews)
Detailed Specifications
Type of Video Card: 2D/3D Video w/TV Support
Color Depth at Maximum Resolution: 16.7 Million Colors (32-bit)
Functionality: Video Capture
Interface Type: Video - 15 pin High-Density D-shell (VGA), Video - 4 pin mini-DIN (S-Video)
Refresh Rate at Max Resolution: 75 Hz
Resolution: 1024 x 768 (XGA), 1280 x 1024 (SXGA), 1600 x 1200 (UXGA), 2048 x 1536, 800 x 600 (SVGA)
Slot/Port Type: PCI
System Type: PC
Video Chipset: ATI RADEON
Video Standard Supported: NTSC (analog)
Installed Video Memory: 64 MB
Memory Technology: DDR-SDRAM (DDRRAM)
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Old August 17th, 2004, 02:25 PM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

It is, I own the very same card.
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Old August 17th, 2004, 09:36 PM
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I did some research for you. Happy surfing

http://www.dogriverdesign.com/produc...2002-08-01.asp
http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips523.html
http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips523.html
Or perforn a search for "Setting up dual screens"
I found not too much here
"Setting up ATI 7500 dual screen"
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Old August 17th, 2004, 03:24 PM
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

I gave all these causes as possible solutions. Because on my other computer when I run PhotoShop, and open several images at the same time for editing, the program can handle it for a while. But eventually the screens start to get smaller as you experience.

Are you letting windows set your visual effects or another choice.
Properties/Advanced/performance/settings. Go deeper to Visual effects/Advance. Mine is set to "Adlust to best performance". and in Visual effects/Advance, "Programs". To use the greater share of processor run time, and share of memory.
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Re: The incredable shrinking singers display...

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Are you letting windows set your visual effects or another choice.
Properties/Advanced/performance/settings. Go deeper to Visual effects/Advance. Mine is set to "Adlust to best performance". and in Visual effects/Advance, "Programs". To use the greater share of processor run time, and share of memory.
Hmmm?? There is no "Advanced" tab off the "Properties" dialog. Might be a difference between our cards. Either way, all of the important settings, (that I know about), are set as was recomended by MTU in a statement rerarding audio drop-outs. (They are rare and I am usually the only one that notices).
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is your video card built by ATI or powered by ATI ??? it makes a big difference !! do you have all the updates from ATI's website ??
It says "Built By ATI"

I thought I had the latest drivers, (I did at one time), but it seems that they put up a new one about 2 minths ago, when I wasn't looking. Of course, I downloaded it and....... No Help.
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