Best Monthly Series for staying current

[Musicman51]

Lon, nothing, absolutly nothing has changed in their thinking since this idiotic nonsense started. They have kept this industry in turmoil ever since they figured out they need a way to control it. Like i said, their disc sets, their rules. You sit down kurt slep, hand him a nice hot cup of starbucks, hold his hand, tell him you're his best bud, and ask the man to level with you. He will flat out tell you, we are all breaking the law who don't play by his rules. On the record. "Sound Choice states they believe format shifting of their products is still illegal" period! The man has not changed his views, never said he had. You might buy his crap that he changed his mind. Don't be fooled my friend. They walk into your show, you are using a computer and hosting software, you're going to recieve a court paper. You might want to look into purchasing that little sticker to put on your computer they sell lon. Oh and make sure you always have your full set of disc with you. Exactly why we all purchased a software program, was to cut down on carrying those big heavy suitcases of disc. But you do it. You'll do fine i'm sure.


I stand by my thoughts, and nothing i've read to date says other wise. As long as you purchase their specal disc sets, play by their rules, you'll do ok. It's not about piracy, it's about the buck. I'm not going to discuss this any further. Lets not turn this great informational outlet into that other forum. You can argue with everyone over there if you wish. Lets keep this forum free of such unhelpful misinformation, and opinions. Enjoy your karaoke show, and good luck in the future.

[Roy Dennis]

This post was originally asking which Disc's to buy to keep a collection current.
Can we keep answers related to that, the legality issues have all been discussed before in a number of previous posts so I don't think it necessary to repeat all that.

[Musicman51]

yep...i totally agree. However it was brought up in relation to which downloads were safe to stay current. I won't reply further to the thread. Thanks Roy

[admin]

Originally Posted by Musicman51

yep...i totally agree. However it was brought up in relation to which downloads were safe to stay current. I won't reply further to the thread. Thanks Roy

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[Musicman51]

Admin, i just logged into "My Account" on the mtu website. My contact info is current and correct ??? phone is in my hand, and working ???

[swany]

Quik Hitz, been looking at these at my local pusher, Quinns, Big Rapids, Michigan.

Seem to be up on the pop and so so on the country, but at the price I may make a major purchase for one of my shows. College Bar, and the music suits my step sons tastes better but they do ask him for songs and I try to respond, and the Quik Hitz will fill most needs. I still get the monthly, CB Country.

The downloads seem a better way to get only those requesteds needs.

[admin]

MCPS licensed songs (such as sold by Tricerasoft) are ILLEGAL to play at a show in the USA and Canada.

Playing a Sound Choice disc MAY be illegal, as they didn't pay the licenses for their music. Sony sued them for around $2 to $5 million and settled for $0.25 on the dollar. The other manufacturers who had been pay the full license (aka legal) were livid! To my knowledge, the settlement agreement included that SC would pay licenses in the future; i.e. this was converted from copyright law to CONTRACT LAW... which is very clear and specific. Again to my understanding, SC again didn't pay the royalties and Sony sued them for $19 million. I understand that was the straw that broke SC's back. To continue making money from the Karaoke market, their "business model" is now to sue anyone who plays a SC song, and then you must prove you are innocent... or pay them $4,000+ for their remaining library... regardless of how may discs you bought from them in good faith.


There is one way that is legal to get your Karaoke songs!

1. Buy a music song with vocals (Audio CD, MP3 from Amazon, Walmart, etc., or iTunes and convert their song with their player to MP3).

2. Use Vogone to remove the vocals. Yes, IF there is any reverb, it will remain, but usually it's less than 10% the amplitude of the vocals, so the audience won't hear it when someone is singing the song. The audience focuses on the Singer, not the reverb.

3. Use KHPro to add the lyrics in sync. First open the music with the vocals, tap in the lyrics in sync with the vocal, then replace the music with vocals for the vocal removed version and export your song. For a 3 mnute playing time song, it takes a few tens of seconds more to add the lyrics in sync to the vocals.

We have close to 7,000 KHPro users, and tons of Vogone users. Price is $59.99 for KHPro, and $59.99 for Vogone. For $119.98, you can make any song you can find the audio for... and it's legal. If you own the music with vocals, the songwriter has been paid their royalties.

We are upgrading Vogone and KHPro to make it even easier to buy the music (or open a HDD song file), remove the vocals and save the new song as KMA or MP3G with KMH header to index it in the Songs Database. We'll also be adding it to your Hoster Songs Database for you. How much easier can it get? Well.....

Next question...

[Rockrz]

Originally Posted by Musicman51

They walk into your show, you are using a computer and hosting software

I heard as long as you have the originals, can proof you purchased them, and you only have them loaded on to one hard drive... you are legit.

Is this still true, or do they still try to sue you?

[djbikeerrob]

as far as i know yes that is still true but i have herd rumors that some folks still are getting sued. but as long as you do what you said they will not win.

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by Rockrz

I heard as long as you have the originals, can proof you purchased them, and you only have them loaded on to one hard drive... you are legit.

Is this still true, or do they still try to sue you?

You will need to go through and pay for an audit if you are using Sound Choice - and possibly Chartbuster/Digitrax. These are the only two companies at this time doing anything.

[djbikeerrob]

PAY for an audit? how can they want you to pay for something they are unjustly accusing you of? If it is unjust that is? doesn't seem right. innocence should not have to be paid for by the accused.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Originally Posted by djbikeerrob

PAY for an audit? how can they want you to pay for something they are unjustly accusing you of? If it is unjust that is? doesn't seem right. innocence should not have to be paid for by the accused.

Go to the Legal Forum on Karaoke Scene Magazine... You Can Gain Some Insight... And Read For Hours... Your Mileage May Vary!

[Rockrz]

Originally Posted by djbikeerrob

PAY for an audit? how can they want you to pay for something they are unjustly accusing you of? If it is unjust that is? doesn't seem right. innocence should not have to be paid for by the accused.

I think I'd tell them to go get a court order... because that opens the door for a counter suit when they find I've purchased all my own stuff, have the originals with receipts.

Then, you could sue for false prosecution because they would be using the court system to falsely accuse someone... which means you would be able to win a lawsuit for substantial damages.

Surely they get some evidence of wrong doing before trying to audit someone, right? Even the IRS doesn't just audit without there being some evidence of something not being right.

That'd be a good question... has anyone been accused by a manufacturer of wrong doing, taken to court and lost, and then got counter sued for damages?

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by Rockrz

I think I'd tell them to go get a court order... because that opens the door for a counter suit when they find I've purchased all my own stuff, have the originals with receipts.

Then, you could sue for false prosecution because they would be using the court system to falsely accuse someone... which means you would be able to win a lawsuit for substantial damages.

Surely they get some evidence of wrong doing before trying to audit someone, right? Even the IRS doesn't just audit without there being some evidence of something not being right.

That'd be a good question... has anyone been accused by a manufacturer of wrong doing, taken to court and lost, and then got counter sued for damages?

Yeah, many have thought that way as well that have ended up paying quite a bit and some getting their stuff confiscated BY a court ordered judgement against them.
Yes they do investigations, but unless you are using original discs, they cannot tell if your hard drive has actual stuff you shifted or bought off ebay - no way to tell and since SC was never sold on computer format (the GEM series is, but it's different colors than the regular discs), the only way they can distinguish is with an audit. Submitted by the kj or through the courts.
Haven't heard of any kj fighting it and winning to date.

[Rockrz]

So, if I buy a from a dealer on eBay... that doesn't count as being a legitimate purchase?

And, MTU says it's legal to put your VD+Gs on your hard drive... are they incorrect?

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by djbikeerrob

PAY for an audit? how can they want you to pay for something they are unjustly accusing you of? If it is unjust that is? doesn't seem right. innocence should not have to be paid for by the accused.

The only accusation is making an unauthorized copy to your hard drive which each discs state no unauthorized copies. If you use SC the choice is pay for authorization through an audit or wait until they sue you for making an unauthorized media shift & pay a lot more for the audit and court fees. Or no audit using original discs or no audit using no SC material.