Hoster 5.03 Bug Reports

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

The rebuild database button should still be there as it was in 5.02, it should show on the far right hand side of the Build Songs Database dialog.
If you are not seeing this, that may be something else that is wrong.

Thank you once again Roy. I didn't go far enough. I opened songs database under tools and thought the button to rebuild should be there. I see now that I have to click the button "build database" to get to the "rebuild" button. After spending about 5 hours getting everything working back to 5.02, I am going to get through my gig tonight and then try again to get the upgrade to 5.03 working. It is strange that when trying to upgrade on TWO computers the rebuild dialog only lasts for about 10 seconds and disappears from the screen. Maybe it is still running in the backround but when it disappears the playlist is there and the songs on the playlist play only without the remove siliene working. At that point most of my singers songs are gone and if I go to "edit songs" there are only about 50 songs available. I guess when I try it again if the rebuild dialog disappers as before, I'll just let the computer sit for 15 or 20 minutes in case the rebuild is still working in the backround. That's the only thing I can figure is happening. Another thing I don't understand is that the songs listed in the playlist that opens will play (without remove silence working) but they aren't available in the search window or edit songs window. If the rebuild didn't work how are they recognized in the playlist window and nowhere else?

Walt

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by WaltR

Another thing I don't understand is that the songs listed in the playlist that opens will play (without remove silence working) but they aren't available in the search window or edit songs window. If the rebuild didn't work how are they recognized in the playlist window and nowhere else?

Walt

The songs that appear in the playlist will probably play because the data of were the songs are on your hard drive is still retained in that lists data.
With regard to the 10 seconds when you start Hoster, After clicking the Hoster Icon, Hoster should not start until the database is rebuilt, you should just see the rebuild notice then when it finishes Hoster opens as normal. This will only happen the first time of using after the upgrade.

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

The songs that appear in the playlist will probably play because the data of were the songs are on your hard drive is still retained in that lists data.
With regard to the 10 seconds when you start Hoster, After clicking the Hoster Icon, Hoster should not start until the database is rebuilt, you should just see the rebuild notice then when it finishes Hoster opens as normal. This will only happen the first time of using after the upgrade.

It appears something isn't right because as I stated, the rebuild dialog box only shows about 10 seconds, then disappears and Hoster starts. Apparently this the problem but why and how to correct it is the question.

Thank you,

Walt

[admin]

Originally Posted by WaltR

It appears something isn't right because as I stated, the rebuild dialog box only shows about 10 seconds, then disappears and Hoster starts. Apparently this the problem but why and how to correct it is the question.

Thank you,

Walt

Remove Silence - Click the Tools menu, Remove Silence command. In the dialog, click the "Remove Silence Mode" button so it is green. This will enable playing without silence. My guess is you will see "Normal Play" is clicked (green), which plays the full songs.

As Roy said, once a file has had Remove Silence run on it, the Start/Stop parameters are stored in the KMA/KMH header, which are used to build the Songs Database. You can edit these in the Edit Songs - Multiple view. Read the manual please.



Build Database - Roy is not stating an important point (this is all new to Roy and Dale so they are learning ).

* Click the Import Songs command on the Menu bar.

* Click the Build Database button.

* In the dialog that appears, MAKE SURE all your KMA/KMH folders are listed in the "Indexed Folders" list (it's button at the top just off center should be green). This is the list window on the bottom left, below the "Add Folder", "Add Folder/Subfolder", "Rescan Folder" and "Exclude Folder" buttons.

If any drives/folders/subfolders with KMA/KMH files are not listed in this window, they are NOT indexed in the Songs.mdb. I expect this is why your Songs.mdb only takes 10 seconds to build when Hoster 5.03 runs and the Songs.mdb is not found.

If you find that folders that ARE identified in your "Build Songs Database" in 5.02 are NOT listed in your 5.03 "Indexed Folders" list, please post that back here. I'd consider that an oversite that we must fix.

I hope this solves your problem(s).

[Joe Nieves]

I've had this issue with my upgrade to 5.1 from I believe 4.11... I had to scan all my folders that were not listed...then my files were found in a search, but every thing in the playlist would play....

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by admin

Remove Silence - Click the Tools menu, Remove Silence command. In the dialog, click the "Remove Silence Mode" button so it is green. This will enable playing without silence. My guess is you will see "Normal Play" is clicked (green), which plays the full songs.

As Roy said, once a file has had Remove Silence run on it, the Start/Stop parameters are stored in the KMA/KMH header, which are used to build the Songs Database. You can edit these in the Edit Songs - Multiple view. Read the manual please.



Build Database - Roy is not stating an important point (this is all new to Roy and Dale so they are learning ).

* Click the Import Songs command on the Menu bar.

* Click the Build Database button.

* In the dialog that appears, MAKE SURE all your KMA/KMH folders are listed in the "Indexed Folders" list (it's button at the top just off center should be green). This is the list window on the bottom left, below the "Add Folder", "Add Folder/Subfolder", "Rescan Folder" and "Exclude Folder" buttons.

If any drives/folders/subfolders with KMA/KMH files are not listed in this window, they are NOT indexed in the Songs.mdb. I expect this is why your Songs.mdb only takes 10 seconds to build when Hoster 5.03 runs and the Songs.mdb is not found.

If you find that folders that ARE identified in your "Build Songs Database" in 5.02 are NOT listed in your 5.03 "Indexed Folders" list, please post that back here. I'd consider that an oversite that we must fix.

I hope this solves your problem(s).

Ok, thanks Admin. The problem was that my KMA folder was not listed. I pointed this out several months ago about another topic but I don't remember what the discussions was about. What I don't understand is....Why would previous versions of Hoster recognize the kma files when the folder wasn't listed? I am sure there is an explanation but it is beyond me. Before now, I just ignored this fact because Hoster worked fine and I thought would leave well enough alone. I added the folder and then did the upgrade; low and behold everthing is well in Hoster land. I want to espcially thak Roy for the time he put in with me on this problem. Thanks Admin. I hope this helps others that may have the same problem.

Walt

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by WaltR

It is strange that when trying to upgrade on TWO computers the rebuild dialog only lasts for about 10 seconds and disappears from the screen.

if I go to "edit songs" there are only about 50 songs available. I guess when I try it again if the rebuild dialog disappers as before,
Walt

My initial thoughts on this as you say 50 songs are available, is that it starts the rebuild and then I reckon it's coming across a file that it doesn't like (Perhaps corrupted dater) and then abandons the rebuild.
What you may be able to try next time is from Tools/Songs database on the next screen select "Build Database" in the bottom left panel where it lists all your folders, Highlight a folder and press the rescan Folder button one folder at a time, (Assuming you have more than one)see what happens then.