Importing mp3g zip files to hoster

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by Mustangt93

And the field setting gives you the formats like I'm talking about? So, that you can put it in a template form? .

Yes.

Originally Posted by Mustangt93

I haven't had a chance to look at that one with the field setting you're talking about. Under what tab or catagory do I find that? ? And you're sure that setting will do what I need it to do as for as putting it in the format I prefer with my own discID? Because if I have an issue with a song being mispelled or an artist...I want the option to just be able to do a search say with "SC7505" so that it will only pull in the songs off that disc and I will see the song on that disc whether the title or artist is mispelled or not. It was a great help when I was using the other program...as long as my customer puts the correct CD number from the book. They do most of the time.

You find find it: Import songs Tab then Index HD files, Select KMH option on the top then Zip for Karaoke type brows to your folder and highlight one of the songs in the top list. Then define the field order, providing you set this right it will list your data as you wanted. Follow the instruction in the left window.

[Mustangt93]

Ok..doesnt' sound too bad. I'll give that a try. Thanks for the info!

Lance

[ddouglass]

From what I see in the way your filenames are listed is you have only a dash in between each section of it. You will need to pick the defined field order of Artist, Title, DiscId, track number and then edit the separators to be exactly what you have. The default for Hoster is space dash space between all except between DiskID and track number. If you change the field order to be what you have then it will come out right.
From the examples you have given this is the kind of DiskID that is normally used in Hoster. They do not use things like Foundation. Hoster is setup for a letter code for brand and the number from the disc. Thus SC7505 is Sound Choice 7505.

[Mustangt93]

Well, I really don't even want Sound Choice 7505 to be the description. I only want it to say SC7505...just like my DKK says DK3045...Pioneer is PC309 and so forth. That's the way I have them in my books and I don't want to have to do a lot of work with that. And also as I mentioned earlier in the thread about if the song or possibly artist is mispelled and it becomes difficult to locate...I just want to be able to put in there SC7505 in search and it will pull in only those 15 songs on that disc. That way...even if the song or artist is mispelled it won't matter because it will be on that disc so I can find it easy. Since I have it labeled as SC7505 in my book...that's what the singers will put on the slips in the way of discID numbers...so I don't even have to do a search by artist or song title..just put in the disc number and there it is on that disc. That was working so much better for me on my other hosting software program I was using. I prefer that method to searching artist and title. Now...granted occasionally someone did bring up the wrong number but a quick look the book and I had the correct disc number. If I go with Sound Choice 7505 then I have to put all that in the search field.

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by Mustangt93

Well, I really don't even want Sound Choice 7505 to be the description. I only want it to say SC7505.

It will come out as it is in your file SC7505 for discID there is another column where you can enter sound Choice. You will still be able to search for it using SC7505.
The best way to find out is just import 1 disc id worth first then you will understand how it works.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Mustangt93

Well, I really don't even want Sound Choice 7505 to be the description. I only want it to say SC7505...just like my DKK says DK3045...Pioneer is PC309 and so forth. That's the way I have them in my books and I don't want to have to do a lot of work with that. And also as I mentioned earlier in the thread about if the song or possibly artist is mispelled and it becomes difficult to locate...I just want to be able to put in there SC7505 in search and it will pull in only those 15 songs on that disc. That way...even if the song or artist is mispelled it won't matter because it will be on that disc so I can find it easy. Since I have it labeled as SC7505 in my book...that's what the singers will put on the slips in the way of discID numbers...so I don't even have to do a search by artist or song title..just put in the disc number and there it is on that disc. That was working so much better for me on my other hosting software program I was using. I prefer that method to searching artist and title. Now...granted occasionally someone did bring up the wrong number but a quick look the book and I had the correct disc number. If I go with Sound Choice 7505 then I have to put all that in the search field.

Roy is correct and that was not what I was saying. I was trying to say that SC7501 will show as DiskID SC7501 which means a Sound Choice disk with the disk number 7501. This should also pick up that it is a Sound Choice and enter the data in the Brand field in the database for you. Your DiskID will remain SC7501 and not Sound Choice 7501.

[Mustangt93]

Ok...thanks guys...I will give this stuff a try first chance I get. I appreciate it!

Lance

[admin]

Originally Posted by Mustangt93

So, you're saying that if it does see something in the space for discID it will go ahead and copy it in that way? As far as the quotes I was just using them to uncompass the catagories...in the other program the format is actually this...

{Atrist}-{Title}-SC7501-{TrackNumber}

And in that format it will put the information under the template for

Artist-Title-DiscID-Tracknumber

Namely because you have told the program what you want it to assign each of the catagories and it can tell the separation of each by the "-" in the middle. So, it puts in in that template without using the internal database.

I know what you mean as far as assigning the KMH to the zip file. I actually already went in and uploaded some songs in the demo version of hoster and I saw where it added that addtional file to each of the Zip files...I didn't know what it was but now that you have explained it to me...it makes sense. So, it's just assigning a way for it to identify the track while actually keeping it in the mp3g format? Kind of like putting a desktop icon for programs to keep you from having to go hunt for them? So, it will still be in mp3 zip format actually?

As long as your actual filenames appear as: Artist-Title-DiscID-Tracknumber.zip
Then you can set Hoster's "Import Hard Drive Files" screen to break apart the filename into its separate fields. This screen ONLY identifies the data fields from the FILENAME.

The "Build Database" newer screen ONLY identifies the data fields from the fields embedded within the MP3 HEADER. IF the Title field is blank it then takes the entire filename as is with "-" included, and stores that in the Title field (64 characters long). This screen is designed to allow folks to SLAM IN all their songs into Hoster's Songs Database, then over time use Hoster's "Edit Songs" dialog to make changes.

I've attached the Import Hard Drive Files screen image so you can see the "Define Fields" section. It is EXTREMELY flexible, which means it is a bit more complicated. I STRONGLY suggest you read the manual topic on how to use it.

You WILL be able to index your files and the FIELDS you have withint their filenames exactly as you desire.

Also, as Dale pointed out, when you select a filename in the "File Window" (shows all files in the selected folder with .zip extension), then you select the Fields and Delimitors in the "Define Field Order" section to match the format used in THAT SELECTED FILENAME, only filenames that match that exact format (yes, _-_ is different from " - " or just "-"). All other filenames are SKIPPED over. The factory default is to hide already imported songs, so you will ONLY SEE those that had different filenames. If all your filenames are in the exact same format, you won't need to do a second, third, etc. pass to get them all indexed.

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

I just tried a test one myself using the quick method and as you say you do get Unknown. It just treats it as one long file name.
So you will be best of with the index HD files option. providing you select the correct field setting here it will put in your disk id.

The "Build Database" ONLY uses the fields in the MP3 Header, or the entire filenamd added to the Title field if there is no Title found in the header. I would NOT suggest you even try indexing your songs with this method. Once you understand the "Import HD Files" screen, you will see it is highly polished to allow you to have the exact precision you desire.

Originally Posted by Mustangt93

Well, I really don't even want Sound Choice 7505 to be the description. I only want it to say SC7505...just like my DKK says DK3045...Pioneer is PC309 and so forth. That's the way I have them in my books and I don't want to have to do a lot of work with that. And also as I mentioned earlier in the thread about if the song or possibly artist is mispelled and it becomes difficult to locate...I just want to be able to put in there SC7505 in search and it will pull in only those 15 songs on that disc. That way...even if the song or artist is mispelled it won't matter because it will be on that disc so I can find it easy. Since I have it labeled as SC7505 in my book...that's what the singers will put on the slips in the way of discID numbers...so I don't even have to do a search by artist or song title..just put in the disc number and there it is on that disc. That was working so much better for me on my other hosting software program I was using. I prefer that method to searching artist and title. Now...granted occasionally someone did bring up the wrong number but a quick look the book and I had the correct disc number. If I go with Sound Choice 7505 then I have to put all that in the search field.

If you filename contains SC7505, that is exactly the "string" of characters that will be stored in the DiscID field within the Songs Database for that song.

[Mustangt93]

Ok, thanks again for all the information. I will admit I'm very new at the computer karaoke host thing. I haven't even used that other programmed I mentioned but a couple of weeks before deciding to go this route because I like the way it looks and operates better than the the one. So, in a nutshell I'm saying that a LOT of this is going right over my head for now. I will need to get the manual and read and try to figure out exactly what you're talking about here. Im very smart and will always figure this stuff out...it just tends to take a little time. But, I will print out all these replies and try to follow them too along with the manual.

One more question before I close the topic. The KHM and the KMA files? They are non compressed files? I was generally told that since I have a huge database (Around 22,000 songs) that I needed to make sure they were in mp3g format to take up less space. But, you guys do them in KMH or KMA files. So, why do you opt for a non compressed type of file? Is it for sound quailty? Or are these somehow small files...as if they were compressed? I notice your program seems to be the only one that puts these songs in a KMA or KHM format. Even that other program has the ability to change FROM the KHM or KMA format to mpg3 zip files...and they even call them HOSTER format. LOL. Just trying to understand it all. So much to grasp when I've just been doing these off CDG for 15 years. Thanks!