Hoster 4.30 Song Edit

[WaltR]

I recently upgraded to 4.30 and I noticed that when you go to the songs edit page and click the box for auto fill, it takes a while to complete what ever it is doing in regards to the database. When I exit the page and return again, I have to check this box all over again. I noticed this in the last version of Hoster as well but I don't remember this happening in previous versions. Under options, I have the autofill checked also. This won't keep anyone from using Hoster but it is some what agrivationg. Anyone have any ideas?

Walt

[Roy Dennis]

Yes, you are right. I have never had the box ticked on my options page so never noticed it before, I have always just ticked the box on the edit page. If I tick the box on the option page, then tick the box on the edit page it seems to take forever before the hour glass stops but it doesn't take as long when not ticked on options page.

[Roy Dennis]

Walt, after looking further into this point, the Tools/options tick box has nothing to do with making it persistent so that it always stays ticked. It is so that it uses the full database of songs in the database (currently around 340,000 entries) and growing bigger every month. This is why it takes a long time to load each time you open with this enabled. If you un-tick this box and then tick the box in the edit screen only, it will be a lot faster as it is using a much smaller data base that in most cases would be enough.
I don't think it will be made persistent because it slows the function of the edit dialog down and is not necessary for most of the edit functions.

Roy

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

Walt, after looking further into this point, the Tools/options tick box has nothing to do with making it persistent so that it always stays ticked. It is so that it uses the full database of songs in the database (currently around 340,000 entries) and growing bigger every month. This is why it takes a long time to load each time you open with this enabled. If you un-tick this box and then tick the box in the edit screen only, it will be a lot faster as it is using a much smaller data base that in most cases would be enough.
I don't think it will be made persistent because it slows the function of the edit dialog down and is not necessary for most of the edit functions.

Roy

Good info. Makes sense. I am not sure if I tried to uncheck the box under otions but I will try what you have explained.

Thanks,
Walt

[admin]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

Walt, after looking further into this point, the Tools/options tick box has nothing to do with making it persistent so that it always stays ticked. It is so that it uses the full database of songs in the database (currently around 340,000 entries) and growing bigger every month. This is why it takes a long time to load each time you open with this enabled. If you un-tick this box and then tick the box in the edit screen only, it will be a lot faster as it is using a much smaller data base that in most cases would be enough.
I don't think it will be made persistent because it slows the function of the edit dialog down and is not necessary for most of the edit functions.

Roy, you're on the right track, but not quite correct.

There are two databases:

1. Import Database - This comes with Hoster and is opened for populating the Artist and Title tables when you click the check boxes (separately) in the Import CD Tracks, or Edit Songs dialogs. This Database has separate Artist and Title Tables. When called to fill in the Artist and Title fields in the dialogs, these Tables VERY QUICKLY open and populate the lists behind these 2 fields.

2. Songs Database - This contains your imported songs. It is a totally separate flat file Database, meaning the Artists, Titles, Brand, DiscID, Track#, BookID, etc. fields are all in a single table of records for each song you imported or indexed. This is the database called into operation by the Tools menu Options dialog check box.

Now, when #2 is enabled, its records must be parsed into fields, and the Artist and Title fields merged alphabetically, one at a time, into the lists for the 2 fields. THIS... is what takes the time.

The logic here is your Songs Database in the past had many Artists and Titles that weren't in the Import Database. That is not so today.

Also, we spend about 40 hours a month cleaning up Artist and Title names, and adding new records. Thus, the Import DB's Artist and Title table entries are spelled correctly (we Google them to determine the spelling) and in Lastname, Firstname order. IF we only present this today in the Edit Songs and Import CD Tracks dialogs, it would be better than merging your Songs DB with them.

I'll leave this Tools menu Options check box in 4.31, but will probably remove it in Hoster 5.00.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Hoster 4.31 Edit Songs Display -

Has anyone had the last line of commands "cut off" on the display screen? I just noticed it, and cannot resize the vertical size of screen to include the last line...

[Roy Dennis]

Have you hit the maximize button next to the X.
If you can't alter things there left click on the Hoster icon above the file tab and select restore, see if that helps.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Yeah Roy I tried that... no help with problem!

I will try another couple of things before I return to an earlier version...

[Roy Dennis]

I see the restore button from the Hoster Tools/settings now reads as restores the show display as well as a couple of other options. Not just the singers display.
Have you tried this ?

Roy.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Yeah... first thing I tried... It's probably something simple (Stupid), but can't see the cure right now... Thanks!

[ddouglass]

Could you post a screen shot showing what you are talking about?

[bryant]

Originally Posted by RIKKI TIKKI

Hoster 4.31 Edit Songs Display -

Has anyone had the last line of commands "cut off" on the display screen? I just noticed it, and cannot resize the vertical size of screen to include the last line...

I mentioned this a while back pertaining to my mini-laptop. There were three or four bottom lines not there and I couldn't resize the vertical either.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Could you post a screen shot showing what you are talking about?

Here is what I am seeing in my edit song screen... may have something to do with current resolution settings for my laptop... ran a registry cleaner, and it may have disturbed one or two of my old settings... the easy fixes didn't work so I'll try some other things before I go back to another restore point, or try reloading program.

[ddouglass]

What resolution are you using?

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Widescreen Laptop
1600 X 900

[Roy Dennis]

My laptops screen resolution is 1366 X 768 just to let you know.

Roy.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Reduced the resolution, and still no change in problem area... perplexing and still searching for fix... Thanks!

[ddouglass]

I can't get to those resolution, but even if you set to a wide screen mode that is smaller I think you will have this problem. I would suggest that you try a standard size resolution and see if that works.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Backed out of Hoster 4.31 ( including betas ) all the way to 4.22 b2 before the edit screen came back to full screen length. Sent support ticket to MTU and will let them look at the problem... will report back if I learn of a fix or bug, or if its something I did...