.cdg files?????

[ProSound1]

I got some new music for my show and it has came to me in the way of .cdg files. I had Hoster 4.09d and it had an option of importing the .cdg files. I tried a few of them and all the was imported was like 9 seconds of moden sounds. So I bought the update to Hoster 4.21 and now there is not even an option of the .cdg files.
Any help on this matter would be most appreciated.
Carl

[ddouglass]

THe only thing that uses a .cdg file is if there is either an MP3, WMA, or WAV file with it of the same name.
The only other possibility would be it was an import through an older version of Microstudio.
How big are the files?
If they are small in size then they need the accompanying music file. If they are very large (25 - 40 MB) then they are the older version Microstudio import.

[ProSound1]

Thank you Dale. I will check on both the file sizes and the microstudio version that I have. I sure hope that I will be able to use the new songs I have with my Hoster program. I would hate to have to not use the program I have became accustomed to using over the past 18 months and start using S** n D****.
I'm off to my day job right now and will check out the items when I get off in 10 or 12 hours.. :-)
Carl

[Beavis]

they could be backed up cdg disks imported through goldenhawk to a drive. its no different than importing a cdg disk.

[Musicman51]

Simply stated this user was most likely trying to import the wrong files as was stated. sheesh......

he was "discussing competition"? he simply made a comment in passing is what i took of it. ummmm...yeah.

[ddouglass]

How about we wait and see what his answers to my questions are before we speculate on what it is or isn't?
Musicman I am not saying you are right or wrong, but I want to try and determine what exactly we are looking at before trying to steer him in the right direction. If you will notice I also edited out the competition name from his as well as removing yours.

[admin]

ProSound1, years ago MTU created the .cdg filename extension... before the now popular "Audio+G" formats consisting of and audio (mp3 [4-10MB], wma [3-8MB], or wav [33-66MB]), and a graphics/lyrics (.cdg [1-1.5MB]) file, which are all now supported by Hoster.

Now, if your files were imported from a CDG Karaoke disc with an older version of Microstudio, then it contains the audio (wav uncompressed) and graphics/lyrics data interleaved within the single ".cdg" file, exactly as they are found on the CDG disc. These files will be the size of a wav file plus the cdg data, or around 34MB-67.5MB (for 3-6 minute long songs). If your files are not this size (and I expect they are not), then you don't have the audio.

Don't give up on Hoster, as some versions back, it was endowed with the ability to automatically DETECT and RENAME the older MTU .cdg format files to a .bin extension (they are basically identical format files), which can be converted to a KMA file in Hoster with the Import Songs menu > Import hard drive files command > .BIN "Type" button. The "detection" we use is quite sophisticated and will be accurate on all MTU .cdg files that are at least 10 seconds playing time.

[ProSound1]

Sorry guys. This computer Karaoke thing is all new to me I'm a disk guy. For years and years and years..
Dale, the Microstudio is 4.006A; there are both .cdg and .mp3 files together. I checked a few songs and seam like the average size of the .cdg files are around 1.5kb and the .mp3 files are around 3.3kb.
So now the question is how on earth do I get them to convert so I can use them for my shows???
Keep in mind I am super green.. I can turn the thing on and off really good.. lol
Admin.. I don't plan on jumping ship I just know that the files work seamless on the other one.. with Dale's help we'll be just fine.
Dale, thank you in advance.
Carl

[ddouglass]

Ok. File have to be on the hard drive. I would recommend putting them in a folder on the same drive with your KMA files but separate from them.

You import them under the Import from Hard Drive.
Select the MP3G button. When you see the list of songs you will need to set up the fields order and separators so the title, artist, etc goes in the correct column.
Then you import them. This does not actually convert them and the original files must remain in the folder you put them in for importing. The Import process will create a 3rd file for each song you import. This file is a 256 byte header for Hoster to tell it what is in the file.

I would highly suggest you read the manual on Importing from Hard Drive and it can explain in more detail than I have here.

[Roy Dennis]

George, when you convert a cd+g karaoke disk to Hoster format it generally gives you a .kmh file of 3.5 to 5 Mb, If you rip a CD+G to mp3+G format you get two files one MP3 about 3.5 to 5 MB plus a smaller file with a .cdg extension about 1.5Mb, if you then import the later into Hoster this adds another small file with a matching name but with a .Kmh extension with about 256 bytes.

Roy.

[George]

True, but towards the end of that chain I believe you're seeing links to the files, not the files themselves.

I may have misread the prior posts, but I thought we were trying to determine the size of the source files in order to figure out if they are viable files to begin with.

George

[ddouglass]

George he told me exactly what I needed to know right here, "there are both .cdg and .mp3 files together". This is an MP3+G song file. That was what I was trying to get out of him.
Since he is new to using a computer for karaoke, he did not know what type of file it was to be able to import it.

Roy going from CD to Hoster creates a KMA not KMH.

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Roy going from CD to Hoster creates a KMA not KMH.

Yeah, my mistake there

Roy.

[admin]

Originally Posted by ProSound1

Sorry guys. This computer Karaoke thing is all new to me I'm a disk guy. For years and years and years..

Dale, the Microstudio is 4.006A; there are both .cdg and .mp3 files together. I checked a few songs and seam like the average size of the .cdg files are around 1.5kb and the .mp3 files are around 3.3kb.

So now the question is how on earth do I get them to convert so I can use them for my shows???

Keep in mind I am super green.. I can turn the thing on and off really good.. lol

Admin.. I don't plan on jumping ship I just know that the files work seamless on the other one.. with Dale's help we'll be just fine.
Dale, thank you in advance.

Carl, Dale gave some excellent steps,but he ignored the EASY way to import.

1. I assume your song files (.mp3+.cdg pairs) already exist in a folder on the hard drive in your computer, or an attached USB external drive. That's all you need to continue. Where this folder exists doesn't matter to Hoster.

2. Run Hoster. Click the "Import Songs menu at the top, and click the "Import Hard Drive Files" command.

3. Click the MP3G button. This displays the "Choose folder" dialog. Locate the folder where your MP3+CDG file pairs are stored and click the "Select" button. This folder should be open and its .mp3 files shown in the "File List Window".

4. Now, you need to look at your song filenames and make a decision.

IF ALL your mp3 + cdg file pairs DO NOT use the same format, then we recommend you click the EASY button. This takes the first 64 characters in each .mp3 filename and adds them into the Title field, adding "unknown" into the other fields. It doesn't get any easier than this. Later, if you want to, the Tools menu > Edit Songs command allows you to edit each file and fill in the other fields. You might only want to edit the songs your singers request, which users say is typically less than 500.

IF ALL your mp3 + cdg file pairs DO use the same format (ex: DiscID-Trk# - Artist_-_Title.mp3), then you should click the Advanced button. This shows the "Define field order" fields where you can select the fields in their order and the delimiters between them. As Hoster imports each song, it locates (parses) the fields from the filename and fills in the associated fields for each song you are importing. This makes it easier to find a song by any means a singer gives you.

Once your songs are imported, you are ready to play! Importing MP3G songs uses our new KMH format, which only indexes the files by creating a .kmh file that holds the information fields you identify (and what you edit with Edit Songs). Hoster processes at about 6 .mp3+.cdg file pairs per second. If you have 30,000 pairs, it will take about 1.5 hours.

[billyo]

i believed it's the same process as importing vcd files if i'm not mistaken

[ProSound1]

Thank you for all your help. I haven't much luck yet with the .mp3g's, but have been able to import aso,e of the .zip files.
I will continue to move the files around and see what I can come up with. the biggest thing is making sure the files were dropped to the same drive as the other .kmh files. Hoster.. LOVE THE EASY Button.. Thanks
Thank you Dale

Carl