Can't Cancel Operation

[Joe Nieves]

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Original Question by Joe Nieves
1. I'm updating a lot of files from song edit under tools and wanted to stop updating so I pressed cansel nothing happen then I pressed the x at the corner and nothing happen I tried several times.

Is this the way it suppose to work once you start the process you can't stop it?

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Originally Posted by ddouglass

I don't know. I don't think I have ever tried to stop it after starting a multiple select process.

Responce

I think it suppose to cancel the operation if you press the Cancel Button Why is it there?


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Original Question by Joe Nieves
2. If there is a problem with any file while this process is running there should be at least an error text file written indicating what files where in error.

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Originally Posted by ddouglass

The error window tells you any of the possible causes and the process does not continue after finding an error..

Responce

Not So I saw the entire process take place at my computer and I never saw an error message of any kind over 1 Hr.

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Original Question by Joe Nieves
3. Right now there's no way I could know what went wrong with what file or what I could do to fix it, this is not good.

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Originally Posted by ddouglass

That would mean it stops as soon as it encounters as error so no list of files is needed..

Responce

Not So I didn't know there was an error till the entire process completed and then I saw that General Posible error message which was NOT Specific to the Cause and Origin of the problem.

I posted the message in my previous post.
Answer

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Did you check to see if any of the files were Read Only which is one of the possible causes listed? .

Responce

How can I do That when I don't know which file had the problem?

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Originally Posted by ddouglass

As long as all the drive possibilities are correct then that is the only possibility..

Responce

I have to check that one out, but if there is no error txt file how can I fined out?
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Originally Posted by ddouglass

If you copied the files from CDs then they are automatically set as Read Only by Windows.

Responce

Do you mean Audio files?

Or do you mean that all the files I had in my HD before I purchased Hoster will have to be ripped again using Hoster because they won't work properly in the Hoster program?


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Original Question by Joe Nieves
4.There should be an option under Language and Genre Not To Update if you Don't need to.

Answer

Originally Posted by ddouglass

I don't understand what you are asking. If it doesn't need updating then why are you selecting it? .

Responce

I have no choice in this you are force to change it if it is defferent from what you need.

And if you don't it will write it to the file wrong. (Genre & Language)

You may need to experiance this Dale to fully understand.

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Original Question by Joe Nieves
5. If you are updating 100 files with 3 Languages and 10 Genres you are forced to process that operation 10 times to get through that batch where as if you had the option then the process is one operation to complete times 1000's of files it will get very time consuming.

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Originally Posted by ddouglass

I don't understand this one either. You can only choose a group and change the setting for that group to one Genre and/or one language at a time..

Responce

Yes your right.

But that is NOT the problem, if your working on a Brand that has multiple Genre and Languages and you Don't Need To Change them you are force to because Genre And Language are set to Always Write To File Even If It's Wrong.
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Originally Posted by ddouglass

There isn't any way for it to know what to set where if you are wanting to change multiple Genre/Language. You couldn't even do this in Access.

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Well In Access....YES There Is

In Hoster.......You Are Correct

But that is not the issue here.

The issue is that the program doesn't allow you the option of not using the Genre & Language it ALWAYS WRITE EVEN IF IT's WRONG.


I hope this clears it up?

Joe....

[ddouglass]

1. Yes it should Cancel. This could be a bug, but I have never tried to stop it.
2. If your drive(s) are correctly attached and the right letter, then the only one left is Read Only and in this case you don't have to know which file it is. Go to the folder they are in Select all, right click on the group and go to properties. Click on Read Only at the bottom to clear the box and click OK.
3. Same as above. No I don't mean just Audio files. And no you will not have to re-rip any files. Just make sure none are set to read only. This is an option you can change on any file.
4. & 5. OK. I can't argue this one now that I understand what you are talking about. I have also run into this problem with selecting a group and having it change the Genre. All of mine are listed as English so I don't have that problem. I'll bring this one up to MTU.

[Joe Nieves]

Hi Dale

Thanks for your reply

The Genre and Language should be set up to Apply When Needed this way if you Don't Need To Change Anything In These Two You Don't Have To.

In My Case I have (6) six different languages and I understand that your product sell world wide so I believe this one is important.


Thanks again

Joe....

[ddouglass]

Agree and have reported it. Hopefully they can get it changed before the next release.

[Joe Nieves]

Thinks for listening

Joe...

[Joe Nieves]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves February 17, 2009

The issue is that the program doesn't allow you the option of not using the Genre & Language it ALWAYS WRITE EVEN IF IT's WRONG. or Not Needed.

I hope this clears it up?

Joe....

　
　
　

Originally Posted by ddouglass February 17, 2009

OK. I can't argue this one now that I understand what you are talking about. I have also run into this problem with selecting a group and having it change the Genre. All of mine are listed as English so I don't have that problem. I'll bring this one up to MTU.

　

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves February 17, 2009

Hi Dale

Thanks for your reply

The Genre and Language should be set up to Apply When Needed this way if you Don't Need To Change Anything In These Two You Don't Have To.

In My Case I have (6) six different languages and I understand that your product sell world wide so I believe this one is important.


Thanks again

Joe....

　

Originally Posted by ddouglass February 17, 2009

Agree and have reported it. Hopefully they can get it changed before the next release.

　

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves February 17, 2009

Thinks for listening

Joe...

　

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves December 12, 2009

I like to know on the mutiple edit section does it still force you to write Language and Genre fields like in 4.6 or can these fields be bypassed if not needed?

The reason I'm asking is because, if you're editing a large amount of files and don't need to edit the Language and Genre fields it becomes very time consuming in grouping these fields to write the changes one group at a time.

If the option to bypass these fiels where available then you can process the entire batch with no additional work one shot.

Is this possible now?

Thank You

Joe...

Originally Posted by ddouglass December 12, 2009

If you leave them blank then they won't be changed. That goes for the rest of the fields as well.

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves December 13, 2009

Thanks for the reply, but that was not the case in Hoster 4.6 is this available in the current version?

Joe...

　

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis December 13, 2009

If you are using Hoster 4.11 it is as Dale answered.

Roy.

　

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves December 13, 2009

This is why I asked the "question", because i'm not using 4.11 currently!!!!!

Joe....

Originally Posted by ddouglass January 26, 2010

Since this has been corrected in Hoster 4.10/4.11 I am closing this thread. It is now not necessary to perform these steps to achieve what what is needed.

　
The fact is that this has not been corrected at all as of today, what has been done is a little message put at the lower right hand corner written in Red stating;

Note: Language and Genre will be set if they are not blank, Just the statment and not the option was done.

You can't blank the two fields in question here and there are no options to accomplish this at All.

Why was I told it was done in Version 4.10 4.11 when in reality it was Never Done at all, and then closed the thread, after many post pursuing this much needed issue to be improved?

What is going on here? I'm I doing something wrong or is there a setting I have to set to make this possible.

Thank You

Joe....

[Roy Dennis]

Joe, I am trying to understand your problem, but I can't.
You can select any number of songs in the multiple edit screen and providing you leave genre & language fields blank (or any of the other perimeters Blank) then version 4.11 doesn't change those fields. If you do choose to change language and leave duet fields and all other fields blank then it will only change language on the chosen fields.

That's how it works on the testing I've done. What exactly are you trying to change without changing any thing else ?

Roy.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

　
The fact is that this has not been corrected at all as of today, what has been done is a little message put at the lower right hand corner written in Red stating;

Note: Language and Genre will be set if they are not blank, Just the statment and not the option was done.

You can't blank the two fields in question here and there are no options to accomplish this at All.

Why was I told it was done in Version 4.10 4.11 when in reality it was Never Done at all, and then closed the thread, after many post pursuing this much needed issue to be improved?

What is going on here? I'm I doing something wrong or is there a setting I have to set to make this possible.

Thank You

Joe....

Joe if you use the Select Multiple button (so you can select more than one song to edit), select the group you want and you will see that all fields (including language and genre) show nothing in them.
If at that point you add anything in any of the fields it will change that field only for all of the selected files when you click Apply. All the rest stay what they were.
This does not apply to the Select Single button since in single all current information is entered in the fields.
So you see this was fixed because it would not do that in 4.06.

[Joe Nieves]

Ok, I see now how this works and the confusing part is that the Note did not indicate that in order for this option to activate you need to select more the one file.

If the cursor is on one file you'll see the two fields populated with their corresponding data, so I guess you're able to call up a DiscID and edit all it's tracks one at a time or if you select as a group then that feature will be automatically activated, did I get this correct?

Thank you for helping me to understand this feature.

One thing though it would have been easier if a small paragraph was noted.

"you need to select more then one file to activate this feature".

Thanks again.

Roy & ddouglass

Joe...

ps What about Language I need "Hindi" added I ask about this I believe two years ago.

[ddouglass]

That I don't know about.

[Joe Nieves]

Thanks ddouglass

Any word on the language field I need to add "Hindi" to the list.


Joe....

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

Thanks ddouglass

Any word on the language field I need to add "Hindi" to the list.


Joe....

That I don't know about.

I answered you already.

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If you need Hindi Added to the Languages, please post this in the New Feature Requests forum located here http://forum.mtu.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66