Speaker Breakin Period

[Musicman51]

The input has been great to this age old tech question. I will hold off on giving what my research has uncovered untill some others hopefully weigh in here with their observations. Difference twiched you and me dale, is you are educated, i ain't....lol

[Musicman51]

You are correct in your observations muzicman144 however. Lets not forget that budget gear like Alto, Phonic, Behringer Nady and others have their place and purpose in todays music scene. I wish they had behringer when i was 16. I had to use old worn out guitar amps and beat to death speakers cabs, all i could afford. At least in todays economy, even those that live from payday to payday, can at least purchase a little better speakers and amps then i had to use. Lets take for instance Behringers stomp boxes. I use the Boss DD3 Digital Delay Pedal, with AC adapter this pedal was around 150.00. I tried a behringer delay pedal, and i thought the quality was real close to my Boss pedal, $29.00. Within reach of any kid nowdays, and any hard up working musician. I heard a bunch of young fella's playing up here, and they were powered by all behringer gear. Durn if i could tell the difference in quality. Their band sounded just as good as any other powered by Crown, Peavey, or QSC. Of course you git what ya pay for, i have several pieces of behringer gear in my studio, works fine, and some pieces are going on 5 years old. Do i want to use all behringer stuff? nope. But they do have a place on todays music scene. Just like the imported Fender guitars from Mexico, and the Epiphone guitars from china. I use a 16 Channel Peavey FX16 mixes for karaoke, this mixer is better then any Macki i've ever own, and the effects rival Lexicons...made in china.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Musicman51

The input has been great to this age old tech question. I will hold off on giving what my research has uncovered until some others hopefully weigh in here with their observations. Difference twiched you and me dale, is you are educated, i ain't....lol

Hahaha!! Most of my schooling past my Air Force electronics training was in the school of hard knocks or self taught from books. I do have a degree in Electronics Engineering (Associates) which got me started with computers and led me into working as a network engineer and IT tech, but most of that was self -taught. Anyway, regardless we can all learn if we put our minds to it and I know you have learned a lot just by asking questions in these forums. We are all glad to help and impart our knowledge to others who need it.

[muzicman144]

George, i thoroughly agree with you on the Budget gear a lot of musicians use. I too started with old road worn speakers and amps. All I could afford. Funny, at that time we all thought big was best and that was what we used. Thank goodness for today's technology that makes everything small. What we carried then in a big truck will now go in the trunk of a compact. I still keep my EV system powered by QSC, but don't know why. I use the Bose LII system, best system i have used except the pro sound used in live outdoor venues.
As you said, you git what you pay for and can afford. Move up to the better stuff when you can. Ain't it been a great ride!!!! I have found that when all else fails, music will never let you down!!
muzicman144

[billyo]

Originally Posted by muzicman144

George, i thoroughly agree with you on the Budget gear a lot of musicians use. I too started with old road worn speakers and amps. All I could afford. Funny, at that time we all thought big was best and that was what we used. Thank goodness for today's technology that makes everything small. What we carried then in a big truck will now go in the trunk of a compact. I still keep my EV system powered by QSC, but don't know why. I use the Bose LII system, best system i have used except the pro sound used in live outdoor venues.
As you said, you git what you pay for and can afford. Move up to the better stuff when you can. Ain't it been a great ride!!!! I have found that when all else fails, music will never let you down!!
muzicman144

i totally agree with you, i started with a peavey 6 channel powered board, and kept on buying big speakers thinking bigger is better, till i ended up with a garage full of audio gears ( 8 speakers, 4 18' subs, 6 power amps 3 peavey 12 channel boards, and a bunch of sound processors and road cases ) i had to rent a u-haul everytime i do big venues ,can't even park a car in m 2 car garage anymore, i since got got rid of them , and replaced it with smaller gears, i now have 4 Mackie systems that i used for diff. size venues

[mindonstrike]

Even though the manufactures insist no breakin is needed, I still do it. It just seems to make sense.

The makers of my speaker equipment insist that it can with stand the cold for storage to sub zero but I still keep a heater in the van that kicks on at freezing.

Any tool I use to make a living gets the kid glove treatment, even when the manufacturers say It doesn't need it

Sam

[Musicman51]

"Even though the manufactures insist no breakin is needed, I still do it."

Which manu's are you speaking of if you don't mind my asking?


Musizicman144, i do use the best i can find. I have used all peavey and carvin gear in one way or another since time began. I am currently using their LM series of speakers. I run 4 main cabs, two 2way cabs, and two 3way cab. Carvin sells a cross bar that fits on your speaker stand, and i mount two speakers on each stand. Thats how light these new 15" neo cabinets are. These new LM cabinets by carvin are just the cats meow. They weigh around 30 pounds each, and are loaded with neodymium speakers made by B&C, an italian speaker company, that makes top shelf stuff. a while back, just for the fun of it, i traded out the B&C neo's and installed the Eminence kapalite 15's. Which is also a great speaker. To my surprise, i liked the italian built B&C neo's better. You can find the B&C neo's on the Parts Express website. They are a very pricy speaker, but in my humble opinion well worth the bucks. I use two 12" Wharfendale floor monitors, and 2 small Electro Voice 12" plastic subwoofer cabinets. These little EV 12" subs think they're 18's, and eat peavey subs for lunch. I have a foldaway two wheel cart i keep in the trailer, and away we go, the carvin mains even i can carry two at a time. My 8 space molded skb rack case is the heaveist piece of gear i have to move now. You know, i purchased hoster so i could stop hauling those heavy cd cases, now i find myself buying new mic preamps, an extra power amp, i also just purchased a small 5" LCD table top TV monitor for my karaoke table, and i also added a table, now i travel with two DJ tables. Where does it all end....Yep, thank goodness for todays technology.

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by Musicman51

"Even though the manufactures insist no breakin is needed, I still do it."

Which manu's are you speaking of if you don't mind my asking?


Musizicman144, i do use the best i can find. I have used all peavey and carvin gear in one way or another since time began. I am currently using their LM series of speakers. I run 4 main cabs, two 2way cabs, and two 3way cab. Carvin sells a cross bar that fits on your speaker stand, and i mount two speakers on each stand. Thats how light these new 15" neo cabinets are. These new LM cabinets by carvin are just the cats meow. They weigh around 30 pounds each, and are loaded with neodymium speakers made by B&C, an italian speaker company, that makes top shelf stuff. a while back, just for the fun of it, i traded out the B&C neo's and installed the Eminence kapalite 15's. Which is also a great speaker. To my surprise, i liked the italian built B&C neo's better. You can find the B&C neo's on the Parts Express website. They are a very pricy speaker, but in my humble opinion well worth the bucks. I use two 12" Wharfendale floor monitors, and 2 small Electro Voice 12" plastic subwoofer cabinets. These little EV 12" subs think they're 18's, and eat peavey subs for lunch. I have a foldaway two wheel cart i keep in the trailer, and away we go, the carvin mains even i can carry two at a time. My 8 space molded skb rack case is the heaveist piece of gear i have to move now. You know, i purchased hoster so i could stop hauling those heavy cd cases, now i find myself buying new mic preamps, an extra power amp, i also just purchased a small 5" LCD table top TV monitor for my karaoke table, and i also added a table, now i travel with two DJ tables. Where does it all end....Yep, thank goodness for todays technology.

Directly: One of the Bose guys at their forum. Indirectly: From other people who've checked with their speaker makers.

Off Topic: Where'd you get your 5" LCD? What size power supply? I've been looking for something like that for the camera system I want to install on my van to supplement my side mirrors.

Sam

[billyo]

Originally Posted by Musicman51

"Even though the manufactures insist no breakin is needed, I still do it."

Which manu's are you speaking of if you don't mind my asking?


Musizicman144, i do use the best i can find. I have used all peavey and carvin gear in one way or another since time began. I am currently using their LM series of speakers. I run 4 main cabs, two 2way cabs, and two 3way cab. Carvin sells a cross bar that fits on your speaker stand, and i mount two speakers on each stand. Thats how light these new 15" neo cabinets are. These new LM cabinets by carvin are just the cats meow. They weigh around 30 pounds each, and are loaded with neodymium speakers made by B&C, an italian speaker company, that makes top shelf stuff. a while back, just for the fun of it, i traded out the B&C neo's and installed the Eminence kapalite 15's. Which is also a great speaker. To my surprise, i liked the italian built B&C neo's better. You can find the B&C neo's on the Parts Express website. They are a very pricy speaker, but in my humble opinion well worth the bucks. I use two 12" Wharfendale floor monitors, and 2 small Electro Voice 12" plastic subwoofer cabinets. These little EV 12" subs think they're 18's, and eat peavey subs for lunch. I have a foldaway two wheel cart i keep in the trailer, and away we go, the carvin mains even i can carry two at a time. My 8 space molded skb rack case is the heaveist piece of gear i have to move now. You know, i purchased hoster so i could stop hauling those heavy cd cases, now i find myself buying new mic preamps, an extra power amp, i also just purchased a small 5" LCD table top TV monitor for my karaoke table, and i also added a table, now i travel with two DJ tables. Where does it all end....Yep, thank goodness for todays technology.

i have the 2 fold cart that i bought from pssl.com for 90.00 but instead of using dj tables, i bought 2 keyboard stands, one with 2 tiers and a regular stand all i do is put a 14x 36 carpet covered plywood over one of the top tiers sit my laptop on it and used the bottom tier for my dj 14x32 coffin that i built myself ( i bulid dj/kj racks for a hobby too, which i have done for most of my kj friends for free ) which houses my board and my 2 cordless mic transmitters and cables, i can set up/tear down in 1/2 an hr..i can haul all my stuff in just one trip.