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Old October 17th, 2008, 08:17 AM
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Can't Remove Singer for DB

I had a strange thing happen last night, well not strange but unexpected. I decided to delete a couple of singer names from the singers DB. I selected the name, hit delete, it warned me that I was going to delete the name, I hit OK and it said it was deleted. But the name was still there.
So I deleted that one song that was listed under the singer, repeated the above, same results. I then tried to delete my name from the Db, same results. I have 30 or more singers in the db, and most have at least 5 or more songs, a few have 15 to 20...This happened on my laptop running XP and Hoster 4.05.
When I got home I tried it on my desk top ( XP and 4.05). This Db only had three names on it and the delete worked fine. So I populated the Db with names and songs. I'm not sure what the magic combination was, but after about 20 names, I could no longer delete from this DB. Has anyone else with a large singers DB had this Problem.
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Old October 17th, 2008, 11:29 AM
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I haven't seen this one. I have seen it not show that it was deleted until Hoster was closed and re-opened.
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Old October 17th, 2008, 12:20 PM
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Hey Laddie,
I'm not to the point where I'm deleting singers from my singer database yet but I can run some tests next week.

Admin gave me this suggestion concerning the excessive refeshing of the singer database:

"this is caused by the "ipoint.exe" program associated with Microsoft mice. Use Task Manager to see the Processes and shut it down. The refreshing should stop."

If this fixes the problem, we will have to shut down ipoint.exe everytime we start our machine, at this point in time. I will try it at tomorrows gig, got tonight off - YEA! Got to get to Atalnta, have a great weekend.

(You can use Access to edit with the singers.mdb. )

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Old October 17th, 2008, 12:58 PM
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I haven't seen this one. I have seen it not show that it was deleted until Hoster was closed and re-opened.
Yea I thought a close and re-open would fix it, but tried that twice, still there. Mabe its the fill moon.
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Old October 17th, 2008, 01:02 PM
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Hey Laddie,
I'm not to the point where I'm deleting singers from my singer database yet but I can run some tests next week.

Admin gave me this suggestion concerning the excessive refeshing of the singer database:

"this is caused by the "ipoint.exe" program associated with Microsoft mice. Use Task Manager to see the Processes and shut it down. The refreshing should stop."

If this fixes the problem, we will have to shut down ipoint.exe everytime we start our machine, at this point in time. I will try it at tomorrows gig, got tonight off - YEA! Got to get to Atalnta, have a great weekend.

(You can use Access to edit with the singers.mdb. )

Jim
Thanks Jim, I will give the the ipoint.exe a try as well
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Old October 17th, 2008, 02:32 PM
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I had a strange thing happen last night, well not strange but unexpected. I decided to delete a couple of singer names from the singers DB. I selected the name, hit delete, it warned me that I was going to delete the name, I hit OK and it said it was deleted. But the name was still there.
So I deleted that one song that was listed under the singer, repeated the above, same results. I then tried to delete my name from the Db, same results. I have 30 or more singers in the db, and most have at least 5 or more songs, a few have 15 to 20...This happened on my laptop running XP and Hoster 4.05.
When I got home I tried it on my desk top ( XP and 4.05). This Db only had three names on it and the delete worked fine. So I populated the Db with names and songs. I'm not sure what the magic combination was, but after about 20 names, I could no longer delete from this DB. Has anyone else with a large singers DB had this Problem.
Hi laddie

I have the same problem to and Had to use access to fix it.

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Old October 17th, 2008, 03:24 PM
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i don't use singers database, but a friend of mine does,and i was over her house one day ,showing her how to use her new mixing board, and she was deleting her singers database and everytime she opens up hoster the s.database is still showing..
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Old October 17th, 2008, 03:44 PM
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Thanks Jim, I will give the the ipoint.exe a try as well
Jim missed Admin's second part to this. If it is the culprit, then look in your Startup forlder and delete it from there. It won't effect your mouse's operation and just is a quick start for their set-up program.
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Old October 18th, 2008, 08:46 AM
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Jim missed Admin's second part to this. If it is the culprit, then look in your Startup forlder and delete it from there. It won't effect your mouse's operation and just is a quick start for their set-up program.
Yea, I checked, I don't have Ipoint.exe loaded on my machine.
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Old October 18th, 2008, 09:09 AM
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Hi laddie

I have the same problem to and Had to use access to fix it.

Joe....
Thanks Joe, thats what I did to get rid of the unwanted name. I also made a short song db on my desk top and tried deleting some names from it. They did delete, but after restarting hoster they were still there.
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Old October 18th, 2008, 10:34 AM
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Yea, I checked, I don't have Ipoint.exe loaded on my machine.
Do you have Logitech Setpoint instead? I haven't had any problems with it, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be causing yours. Basically it is the same type of mouse control program.
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Old October 18th, 2008, 12:56 PM
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Do you have Logitech Setpoint instead? I haven't had any problems with it, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be causing yours. Basically it is the same type of mouse control program.
I looked for setpoint as well, neither setpoint or ipoint are TSRs. A search of my machine did not find either .exe.

My desktop runs setpoint, but since I don't use it for shows it doesn't bother me.
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Old October 18th, 2008, 03:15 PM
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What kind of mouse do you use on your show computer?
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Old October 19th, 2008, 05:52 AM
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Jim missed Admin's second part to this.
Thanks Dale.

I just looked and don't have either program on my machine.

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Old October 19th, 2008, 01:00 PM
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What kind of mouse do you use on your show computer?
I am running a ms usb wireless mouse on my laptop. The program I found was apoint.exe. I removed it from my TSRs and have prevented it from starting. But it made no difference with respect to the DB redrawing.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 01:11 PM
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Ok Laddie, we will report this to MTU. I think they were looking a little futher into this, but if we tell them their immediate fix isn't working then they will have to figure out a way to speed it up.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 04:24 PM
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Ok Laddie, we will report this to MTU. I think they were looking a little futher into this, but if we tell them their immediate fix isn't working then they will have to figure out a way to speed it up.
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