SND size - Problem solved by NOT using Arial Black font

[marklwood]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Did you try closing Hoster and re-opening it to see if it corrected itself?
You could also try setting it to one line and then back to two to see if that will fix it.
I think your stretching the space limits trying to get 3 per line. Especially if you are showing name, title and elapsed time. The problem may be overflow which is causing it to wrap.

No, I am only showing singer's name and time. I tried setting to 1 line with no names in the list yet and it still takes up 2 line spaces. I tried just name with 1, 2, and 3 lines. Still has the extra line space at the bottom. I tried changing the font size to 4pt and various fonts but still no love. Like I said, I just stretched extra line space of the window down below the viewable area so it isn't noticeable to anyone but me. What is strange to me though, is the intermission screen was not affected. It's no deal breaker because once I start karaoke, there is not ever a break until closing time.

While writing this I just thought of something I didn't try. You gave me an idea when you suggested I may have overstretched the bounds of a line wrap. Even though I am not displaying more than 10-12 characters per entry with the name/time, it may have a default minimum spacing. I will try making the window wider tomorrow night and see if that will clear it up. I may have inadvertently made the window narrower when I was stretching it to fill the screen.

[madjim- with the Lord]

Hey Mark,
The SND uses HTML. Keep this in mind as you try different things, font type, font size, how many singers per line, yadda yadda. (I'm assuming you've worked with HYML, If not just ignore me. )

This may help or I may be preaching to the choir. Just a thought.

Let me know if this keeps giving you fits and I'll make some time and see what I can come up with. Showing more than three singers seems a little much to me but you know your clubs needs! We'll find a combo that works for you.

Jim

[marklwood]

Originally Posted by madjim

Hey Mark,
The SND uses HTML. Keep this in mind as you try different things, font type, font size, how many singers per line, yadda yadda. (I'm assuming you've worked with HYML, If not just ignore me. )

This may help or I may be preaching to the choir. Just a thought.

Jim

Yeah, I've tried all the combinations I could think of. I even meticulously copied all the settings from my intermission display which seems to be unaffected. I usually run a 30-45 rotation, so having 9 singers listed is almost a must. I would like to display 20-30 if I thought it would be legible. That's why I made the suggestion in New Features to use the extra real estate on a wide screen display. I could also use a third monitor if the windows were separated. 1 for me, 1 for the singer, and one for the audience. I would need to have the words doubled to the audience monitor though, so a wide screen format would be easier to implement for MTU.

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by marklwood

I usually run a 30-45 rotation,

It's like that for me at my Tuesday night gig, normally an hour and a half wait to sing. I'm up, let me work with it on 4.04 beta 4 and see what I come up with.

Jim

[madjim- with the Lord]

Mark,
I set 4.04 beta 4 to show nine singers and here is what it looks like. (see attachment)

00000 is without the time
00001 is with the time

If this what it looks like on your machine?

Jim

[marklwood]

No, my background is yellow and deb is never mad

Seriously though, it looks almost like that but I use a smaller font and there is one extra line of blank space below the 3 lines. It is not like that in the intermission display, only in the show display.

[madjim- with the Lord]

Mark,
You may have the preview screen and the show diplay screen mixed up. On my preview screen there is a blank space below the last line in the singer display. You can see it on the attachments I made on the last post.

To test this, go to tools> show display...> preview section and uncheck the "Unlock And Resize" box. Reatart Hoster and the preview display will go back to it's default position.

Mad Deb is my wife, Mrs. Mad Jim.

Jim