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Old July 18th, 2008, 09:05 PM
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Have just upgraded from Hoster 3.321A to Hoster 4.01 and am pleased to advise that the DK tracks previously affected by this issue now play perfectly. It may have taken a while but the old motto 'Good things come to those who wait' is indeed correct in this case. Thanks MTU.

... Am also delighted with 4.01 ... absolutely no issues whatsoever running with XP Pro. Awesome!
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Old August 19th, 2008, 09:25 PM
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Have just upgraded from Hoster 4.02 to 4.03.

Although a number of previous 4.02 issues have been fixed (and a BIG 'Thanks' for doing so), the problem originally highlighted in this thread has re-appeared under 4.03.

4.01 and 4.02 played the DK tracks concerned perfectly. The graphics issue was prevalent in 3.310 through to 3.21A (incl 3.4) ... and has come back again in 4.03.

Ten giant steps forward ... but alas one small step back
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Old August 19th, 2008, 09:57 PM
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Have just upgraded from Hoster 4.02 to 4.03.

Although a number of previous 4.02 issues have been fixed (and a BIG 'Thanks' for doing so), the problem originally highlighted in this thread has re-appeared under 4.03.

4.01 and 4.02 played the DK tracks concerned perfectly. The graphics issue was prevalent in 3.310 through to 3.21A (incl 3.4) ... and has come back again in 4.03.

Ten giant steps forward ... but alas one small step back
Hey BeeCee,
MTU had to do alot of code slinging to get the old player back into Hoster 4. Two steps forward and one step back sometimes. All of these points will be fixed soon. The focus of 4.04 is geting Video to import into the database so video is next. They'll get the DK issue fixed I'm sure.

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Old August 19th, 2008, 11:55 PM
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Have just upgraded from Hoster 4.02 to 4.03.

Although a number of previous 4.02 issues have been fixed (and a BIG 'Thanks' for doing so), the problem originally highlighted in this thread has re-appeared under 4.03.

4.01 and 4.02 played the DK tracks concerned perfectly. The graphics issue was prevalent in 3.310 through to 3.21A (incl 3.4) ... and has come back again in 4.03.

Ten giant steps forward ... but alas one small step back
This may be because the player has been changed back to the original one used before 4.00. Have you tried reimporting them or tried importing them into Microstudio? Both have better error correction for imports now over anything out before.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 05:14 AM
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This may be because the player has been changed back to the original one used before 4.00. Have you tried reimporting them or tried importing them into Microstudio? Both have better error correction for imports now over anything out before.
Thanks for the advice Dale.

I tried both of your suggestions without success i.e. I attempted to play one of the problem tracks direct from the CDG disk via Microstudio 4.006 and also re-imported same into Hoster 4.03.

Sorry – no joy. Clearly some incompatibility with the old lyrics player. As originally reported 18 months ago by myself and several others - this symptom is peculiar to certain DK tracks with a diagonal song title swipe.

It's more of an annoyance than a cause of major concern
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Old August 20th, 2008, 10:51 AM
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It's more of an annoyance than a cause of major concern

Hey BeeCee,
These annoyances are a concern to MTU. The owner can't sleep at night if his clients aren't using perfect code. Thank you for reminding them about this issue. I have no DK disc so I'm no help in this department.

I feel this will be addressed in 4.04 while they are getting the import video feature ironed out.

Thanks again,

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Thanks for the advice Dale.

I tried both of your suggestions without success i.e. I attempted to play one of the problem tracks direct from the CDG disk via Microstudio 4.006 and also re-imported same into Hoster 4.03.

Sorry – no joy. Clearly some incompatibility with the old lyrics player. As originally reported 18 months ago by myself and several others - this symptom is peculiar to certain DK tracks with a diagonal song title swipe.

It's more of an annoyance than a cause of major concern
Beecee,

I have two versions of Carolyn (Merle Haggard) on DK072-15 and DK Applause DK3041-12. The DK072-15 that sweeps diagonally is garbled on lyrics, but DK3041-12 plays just fine! Also tried to reload ( import ) from original DK disc in Edit mode and also on show import that you would use for clients that bring in their own disc. Same result with garbled lyrics on the DK072-15 version.

Luckily I have second, or third versions of most of the affected DK song titles, so I'll be patient while MTU gets to fixing this problem for all!

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Old August 21st, 2008, 09:27 AM
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Have just upgraded from Hoster 4.02 to 4.03.

Although a number of previous 4.02 issues have been fixed (and a BIG 'Thanks' for doing so), the problem originally highlighted in this thread has re-appeared under 4.03.

4.01 and 4.02 played the DK tracks concerned perfectly. The graphics issue was prevalent in 3.310 through to 3.21A (incl 3.4) ... and has come back again in 4.03.

Ten giant steps forward ... but alas one small step back
Yes, I can see this old DK problem has returned. It was serendipitous that it worked in our "new 4.00" player. However, NOTHING ELSE worked in that player and worst of all many users lost sync between the lyrics and music. That... is totally unacceptable to us.

So, after months of striving with Microsoft's Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer (both at the core of our "new" player), we thre them out! By returning to the older, tried and true player, ALL problems (17 fixed) are now gone.

We did have a problem with the Pioneer logo in our new player, and wasted a lot of time partly fixing that. It was incredibly complex, with shifting indices we had to keep track of all the time.


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Beecee,

I have two versions of Carolyn (Merle Haggard) on DK072-15 and DK Applause DK3041-12. The DK072-15 that sweeps diagonally is garbled on lyrics, but DK3041-12 plays just fine! Also tried to reload ( import ) from original DK disc in Edit mode and also on show import that you would use for clients that bring in their own disc. Same result with garbled lyrics on the DK072-15 version.

Luckily I have second, or third versions of most of the affected DK song titles, so I'll be patient while MTU gets to fixing this problem for all!

Rick
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We spent a LOT of time creating our new player, and fully expect to return to using it one day. It has some superior features we will want down the road.

Thus, we don't want to invest more time to fix the DK problem in the currently used, older player. I hope you all understand. This was something that DK did that is very abnormal, and won't be trivial to fix.

Since it works in our new player, we'd be further down the road working on getting that to work without Windows Media Player versus custom coding a DK fix.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 03:32 PM
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I posted a FIX (post #9) for this about a year ago. It's not a fix for Hoster, it's a fix for the individual tracks. It sounds more difficult than it really is. It requires Microstudio and/or Songverter and Editcdg (freeware).
Perhaps not practical if you have a lot of 'em but works well for those must have or often played songs.

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