Hoster 5.09 Has been released May 28, 2013

[Roy Dennis]

It may be a problem in the registry, you could delete the Hoster registry keys then restart Hoster and it will rebuild all the keys but it will be like starting Hoster the first time you will have to go through all the settings again like your show display and you will lose all your instabuttons if you have your singers screen detached that will revert back to standard, either try that or wait and see if support comes up with an answer. The songs.mdb will be safe it won't affect your imported songs.

If you want to try it instructions are here: http://www.mtu.com/kb/kb/index.php?a...id=26&relid=10

The very start of the instructions is slightly different for windows 7 & 8.
Just type regedit.exe in the search box above the start button, when it returns a result click that.

[nfountai]

Roy
I did that after the your last suggestion. uninstalled Hoster, cleaned the registry, cleaned the computer, defragged and rebooted a couple times. Reinstalled and I was pissed because I had installed a lot of instabuttons that I hadn't thought about losing.

I think at this point that I'll just bite the bullet and add the songs manually and at the same time that I add a new song for a singer.

[Roy Dennis]

When you say "cleaned the registry", did you do it as described in the instructions or did you just use a registry cleaner ?

I could tell you how to do it without deleting the instabuttons but thought that might leave a gremlin behind

[nfountai]

That is a no. I used a cleaner. How do I save my singers database and other singers list and playlist?

I am not so worried about the instabuttons as I created a special folder to pick those songs from.

Right now I am on another computer. My wife is at the computer with the problem. She is manually adding all the songs to the singers database. She would hang me high if I screw that up now.

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by nfountai

That is a no. I used a cleaner. How do I save my singers database and other singers list and playlist?

I am not so worried about the instabuttons as I created a special folder to pick those songs from.

Right now I am on another computer. My wife is at the computer with the problem. She is manually adding all the songs to the singers database. She would hang me high if I screw that up now.

I know it states in those instructions that you could lose your singers database but I'm sure that is wrong.
You may lose things like times singer sang that song and perhaps dates related to singer but not the actual singers list.

You will lose the instabuttons and settings like in the show display if you have a picture showing for the intermission view all the fade out and fade in controls and things like that will all have to be set again.

To be on the safe side you could backup the whole of the Hoster folder, If you open Hoster Tools menu, select "Hoster data folder" close Hoster but leave the datafolder open. Now you want to go back to the folder containing these files so in your address bar click on "mtu.com" you should then see a "Hoster" folder if you can save a copy of that somewhere safe that contains the singers.mdb songs.mdb and a whole lot of recoverable data, it should also have your playlist .HST files unless you changed that with the save as function. Most of the important files are stored in that Hoster folder and you can copy back individual items anytime you may have a problem.

[nfountai]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

It may be a problem in the registry, you could delete the Hoster registry keys then restart Hoster and it will rebuild all the keys but it will be like starting Hoster the first time you will have to go through all the settings again like your show display and you will lose all your instabuttons if you have your singers screen detached that will revert back to standard, either try that or wait and see if support comes up with an answer. The songs.mdb will be safe it won't affect your imported songs.

If you want to try it instructions are here: http://www.mtu.com/kb/kb/index.php?a...id=26&relid=10

The very start of the instructions is slightly different for windows 7 & 8.
Just type regedit.exe in the search box above the start button, when it returns a result click that.

I printed out the process and I am familiar with removing and editing some registry keys. But I found I could not remove or edit and registry keys at all. May be windows 8 has other restriction?
If you have another idea let me know.
I tried giving myself permission and still no luck

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by nfountai

I printed out the process and I am familiar with removing and editing some registry keys. But I found I could not remove or edit and registry keys at all. May be windows 8 has other restriction?
If you have another idea let me know.
I tried giving myself permission and still no luck

Yes, I have read some things about the windows 8 registry problem, as I don't have it I can't really advise what to do.

When you re-install Hoster, in the screen just after where you accept the conditions, you get a screen with just 2 tick boxes, if you tick the bottom one which reads "Click this if you are reinstalling Hoster and wish to clear all known settings" that is supposed to be the equivalent of deleting those registry keys. So if you did tick that box when you upgraded and are still getting the problem then the problem must be elsewhere.

I have never checked myself that it does remove all those registry keys but remember reading about it when it was first introduced.
I can't seem to find any info on it now though.

[nfountai]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

Yes, I have read some things about the windows 8 registry problem, as I don't have it I can't really advise what to do.

When you re-install Hoster, in the screen just after where you accept the conditions, you get a screen with just 2 tick boxes, if you tick the bottom one which reads "Click this if you are reinstalling Hoster and wish to clear all known settings" that is supposed to be the equivalent of deleting those registry keys. So if you did tick that box when you upgraded and are still getting the problem then the problem must be elsewhere.

I have never checked myself that it does remove all those registry keys but remember reading about it when it was first introduced.
I can't seem to find any info on it now though.

I'll try everything again later.
Thanks for the suggestion

[nfountai]

Ok. I tried everything I could to modify my registry and all so far has failed. So I've given up with that process.

I uninstalled 5.09.02. I reinstalled the 5.09, than upgraded to 5.09.02.

I checked the box during the install to remove all settings.
I rebooted, and had to setup my Hoster setting as new.
I shut Hoster down and restarted and had to setup Hoster again.

I uninstalled Hoster, and rebooted.
I reinstalled Hoster and did not check the box to remove all setting.
I rebooted and started Hoster and had to setup Hoster again. CD disk, marquee, fonts, color and a few other.

I am finding that each time close Hoster I have to do this process each time I start Hoster.

Anybody got a clue why I am having this problem now?

[nfountai]

Originally Posted by nfountai

Ok. I tried everything I could to modify my registry and all so far has failed. So I've given up with that process.

I uninstalled 5.09.02. I reinstalled the 5.09, than upgraded to 5.09.02.

I checked the box during the install to remove all settings.
I rebooted, and had to setup my Hoster setting as new.
I shut Hoster down and restarted and had to setup Hoster again.

I uninstalled Hoster, and rebooted.
I reinstalled Hoster and did not check the box to remove all setting.
I rebooted and started Hoster and had to setup Hoster again. CD disk, marquee, fonts, color and a few other.

I am finding that each time close Hoster I have to do this process each time I start Hoster.

Anybody got a clue why I am having this problem now?

When I say "remove all settings" I mean "clear all known settings"

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by nfountai

Ok. I tried everything I could to modify my registry and all so far has failed. So I've given up with that process.

I uninstalled 5.09.02. I reinstalled the 5.09, than upgraded to 5.09.02.

I checked the box during the install to remove all settings.
I rebooted, and had to setup my Hoster setting as new.
I shut Hoster down and restarted and had to setup Hoster again.

I uninstalled Hoster, and rebooted.
I reinstalled Hoster and did not check the box to remove all setting.
I rebooted and started Hoster and had to setup Hoster again. CD disk, marquee, fonts, color and a few other.

I am finding that each time close Hoster I have to do this process each time I start Hoster.

Anybody got a clue why I am having this problem now?

I haven't got a clue

Looking back at your post, in post #29 things seemed to be alright.

What I would try is uninstall just so it registers it as uninstalled, then try using system restore back to around the time of that post which was June 3rd. or alternately back to a date before you installed 5.09 and start again from there.

[nfountai]

Ok Roy
I try that and let you know