Hoster 5.09 Has been released May 28, 2013

[uhuhnottelling]

having an odd issue on all my laptops - merge songs simply freezes hoster. has anyone else experienced this?

[uhuhnottelling]

Originally Posted by uhuhnottelling

having an odd issue on all my laptops - merge songs simply freezes hoster. has anyone else experienced this?

i wanted to completely removed an old database from 1 laptop and replace it with another. I removed all files & folders, ran rebuild db so it reported 0 songs. then added folders 1 by 1.
i'm having 2 issues currently:
1. even tho' there were no songs left in the db, i was only able to import 30 of 300 songs with the claim that there are 270 dupes. why would this happen if there were no songs left in the db? how can i wipe out any memory of there ever having been a db?
2. the merge dupes button freezes hoster

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by uhuhnottelling

i wanted to completely removed an old database from 1 laptop and replace it with another. I removed all files & folders, ran rebuild db so it reported 0 songs. then added folders 1 by 1.
i'm having 2 issues currently:
1. even tho' there were no songs left in the db, i was only able to import 30 of 300 songs with the claim that there are 270 dupes. why would this happen if there were no songs left in the db? how can i wipe out any memory of there ever having been a db?
2. the merge dupes button freezes hoster

Item 1)
If these are kmh types, each of the folders containing these types has a file named "ImportedFiles.txt" this contains a list of all your imported files in that folder. If you delete this file I'm not sure if rebuilding the database creates this file again.
You may want to test on a folder with the least files in to try it first. One way to do this, from the Build database dialog use the Exclude folder button to remove those songs from the database.

Then open the folder in explorer and rename the "ImportedFiles.txt" to "Backup-ImportedFiles.txt" just in case you need to replace it.
Now from Hosters rebuild dialog, go back in to the Excluded folders list, select the folder and choose "Remove folder from list".
Now go back to the rebuild database dialog, use the add folder button and brows to the folder and add it to the list, you should see it rebuilding just that folder into the database and when completed tell you how many songs from that folder added to the database.
Then using explorer look in the folder and see if it rebuilt that .txt file.
If yes then that should answer to your question, so you would then have to remove that file from each folder.
Take note if it doesn't replace it you will have problems when using the Index Song files dialog, ticking the hide imported tracks won't work.

Item 2) I don't know but did you leave it for a while to see if it started responding again ?

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

Item 1)
If these are kmh types, each of the folders containing these types has a file named "ImportedFiles.txt" this contains a list of all your imported files in that folder. If you delete this file I'm not sure if rebuilding the database creates this file again.
You may want to test on a folder with the least files in to try it first. One way to do this, from the Build database dialog use the Exclude folder button to remove those songs from the database.

Then open the folder in explorer and rename the "ImportedFiles.txt" to "Backup-ImportedFiles.txt" just in case you need to replace it.
Now from Hosters rebuild dialog, go back in to the Excluded folders list, select the folder and choose "Remove folder from list".
Now go back to the rebuild database dialog, use the add folder button and brows to the folder and add it to the list, you should see it rebuilding just that folder into the database and when completed tell you how many songs from that folder added to the database.
Then using explorer look in the folder and see if it rebuilt that .txt file.
If yes then that should answer to your question, so you would then have to remove that file from each folder.
Take note if it doesn't replace it you will have problems when using the Index Song files dialog, ticking the hide imported tracks won't work.

Item 2) I don't know but did you leave it for a while to see if it started responding again ?

Roy is the man when it comes to giving direction to Hoster! If you still don't have the songs after you do what he has advised, here is what I have done in the past with similar problems and it has worked for me. First it is important that you are sure the songs are no longer available in Hoster. Then open windows explorer and go to the folder that you have the missing songs in. Delete the folder Roy mentioned "Imported files.txt" or rename it. If this file doesn't exist still continue to the following. I then open Hoster and import the folder with the missing songs like you would do with new songs. It will create a new "Imported files.txt" when you index these songs. ONLY do this if you are still having problems AFTER you try what Roy suggested. Also, in earlier versions of Hoster if imported files are KMH and then deleted or songs just aren't listed in Hoster, after deleting the "Imported files.txt" the KMH files may still be with each song that has been deleted or missning. I have had to delete all the KMH files that are listed with these songs before Hoster would import them again. On the newer versions of Hoster if I delete songs in the Hoster tools/edit page it also removes the KMH files but in my testing it doesn't remove the "Imported files.txt" file.

Hope this isn't to confusing. Roy has a much smoother and accurate way of explaining things then I do. Good luck!

Walt

[uhuhnottelling]

thank you both to roy and walt!

you've given me some great info.

the freezing issue: i left 3 overnight. 1 finally merged dupes, the other two just stayed frozen all night.

but my most immediate problem: i can't find where the temp files are kept in windows 7. as my folder was scanning it completely filled my harddrive. i have less than 2 MB, yes MB free :O i had about 70 gigs free but the folder scanning just started filling the harddrive. so weird. it's happening on another computer that is running windows 8. i found those temp files and it instantly freed up 80 gigs. the merging is the least of my problems at present :S

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by uhuhnottelling

thank you both to roy and walt!

you've given me some great info.

the freezing issue: i left 3 overnight. 1 finally merged dupes, the other two just stayed frozen all night.

but my most immediate problem: i can't find where the temp files are kept in windows 7. as my folder was scanning it completely filled my harddrive. i have less than 2 MB, yes MB free :O i had about 70 gigs free but the folder scanning just started filling the harddrive. so weird. it's happening on another computer that is running windows 8. i found those temp files and it instantly freed up 80 gigs. the merging is the least of my problems at present :S

First of are you using 5.09.02 as an update was released from the original 5.09 ?
You can check this from Help/about Hoster.

Have a look in the Quarantine folder, to find it open Hoster, go to Tools/Hoster Data Folder, you should see a folder named Quarantine, Is this full ?
If your files are on an external drive you may find a Quarantine folder there. open the external drive and look for MTU/Hoster/Quarantine or it might be just Hoster/Quarantine, see if that has any files in it.
If the files in these folders are kma types then deleting them will mean losing them altogether, if they are kmh types then it is only the kmh headers which is only a small file anyway.

If you were looking for it using an earlier version like 5.08 the quarantine folder would be in C\MTU\Hoster folder.

As your drive was full that may account for the merge freezing.

[uhuhnottelling]

my drive wasn't full though. i moved the files to a different computer. after all the files were copied i still had 70-80G free. i clicked on rescan folder in the import window and suddenly my harddrive started filling up. i have found and deleted the quarantine data but that doesn't account for nearly 70 GIG hiding somewhere that i can't find. it never even finished indexing because it ran out of space. i have mere MB left on my C drive and i desperately need to find where hoster put these temp files during the scan.

oh yes... windows 7 using 5.09.02