Post Hoster 5.07 Problems Here

[admin]

Originally Posted by WaltR

Roy,
Not meaning to hi-jack this thread but you mentioned something that has been a mystery to me for a long time. You said "the instabuttons are stored in the registry keys". Is this also true with the latest song additions under the song count for the songbook?

Walt

Don't know the absolute answer. My bet is the number of NEW songs added to the Songs.mdb AFTER you "approve" that you have reprinted your Songbook is stored in a Registry Key. That's the ONLY place we store persistent data, and this count is definitely retained.

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by admin

Don't know the absolute answer. My bet is the number of NEW songs added to the Songs.mdb AFTER you "approve" that you have reprinted your Songbook is stored in a Registry Key. That's the ONLY place we store persistent data, and this count is definitely retained.

The reason I asked, in order to back up my main computer to my backup computer, I copy the entire MTU file and store it on my external drive. I then delete the MTU file on my backup computer and paste the backup MTU file that I stored on my hard drive. Everything seems to work ok except if I have any new song counts in the main computer they are back to 0 on the backup computer. Of course the insta buttons are gone as explained by Roy. I hope I made this clear enough.


Walt

[admin]

Originally Posted by WaltR

The reason I asked, in order to back up my main computer to my backup computer, I copy the entire MTU file and store it on my external drive. I then delete the MTU file on my backup computer and paste the backup MTU file that I stored on my hard drive. Everything seems to work ok except if I have any new song counts in the main computer they are back to 0 on the backup computer. Of course the insta buttons are gone as explained by Roy. I hope I made this clear enough.

Registry Keys are NOT stored in a user controller folder, such as C:/MTU/Hoster. You would need to copy them using RegEdit to edit your Registry Keys, and that gets dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.

Doing the copy as you indicate above could be dangerous. We RECOMMEND you rebuild the Songs Database, and refresh the Singers Database when you copy then to a new computer. In the Songs.mdb case, if all your KMH/KMA files are not on the external drive in the SAME drive/folder/sub-folder/etc. path, rebuilding it will NOT duplicate the Songs.mdb identical to the Show computer.

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by admin

Registry Keys are NOT stored in a user controller folder, such as C:/MTU/Hoster. You would need to copy them using RegEdit to edit your Registry Keys, and that gets dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.

Doing the copy as you indicate above could be dangerous. We RECOMMEND you rebuild the Songs Database, and refresh the Singers Database when you copy then to a new computer. In the Songs.mdb case, if all your KMH/KMA files are not on the external drive in the SAME drive/folder/sub-folder/etc. path, rebuilding it will NOT duplicate the Songs.mdb identical to the Show computer.

Wow! Could be dangerous?...I better change my ways. Thank you very much.

Walt

[jaycrick]

Can someone answer these questions?
1. Will 5.07 and all future upgrades keep the prior installed version as a working copy on my computer.
2. If the answer to #1 is yes will future upgrades (eg. 5.08) keep a version of 5.07 as a working copy as well as the prior version kept by the 5.07 upgrade. I'm asking if with each upgrade will I have another old copy of the software, eventually ending up with many copies of old software installations?
3. Will prior versions kept on the computer be uninstallable through the remove programs application in Windows without affecting the most recent version? If not, how can prior versions be removed?

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by jaycrick

Can someone answer these questions?
1. Will 5.07 and all future upgrades keep the prior installed version as a working copy on my computer.
This is a new idea just in case someone experiences problems with an update, I think that will depend on responses from users if they like it or not.
2. If the answer to #1 is yes will future upgrades (eg. 5.08) keep a version of 5.07 as a working copy as well as the prior version kept by the 5.07 upgrade. I'm asking if with each upgrade will I have another old copy of the software, eventually ending up with many copies of old software installations?
No, i don't see that happening it will just be the previous version you were using at that time.
3. Will prior versions kept on the computer be uninstallable through the remove programs application in Windows without affecting the most recent version? If not, how can prior versions be removed?

No you can't uninstal it, It is not a full install of Hoster, it is just an executable file about 2.5 MB in size so won't gobble up your hard drive space. If you don't want the HosterPrior version showing on your desktop just delete the shortcut icon for it.

You can always start the program from C:/Program files(x86)/Micro Technology Unlimited/Hoster folder. That's the path if it on windows 7.
You could actually just delete the HosterPrior.exe file from there but don't do that to the Hoster.exe file.

[adamholbrook]

Hello, not really sure if it's a glitch or just some corrupted files. On random songs (different brands but by weird coincidence the ones that I sing the most) at the end they "hang", they don't stop properly. The screen goes blank and the counter stops. It plays perfectly up to that point. I did just recently upgrade to 5.07, never had this problem before, however, the other problems I had before (which were really more serious) have been cleared up and I am very happy with this new upgrade. I tried turning off "remove silence" and turning it back on, it always hangs. I tried re-ripping the songs, still does it. Thought it was a brand issue but as I mentioned all the songs it happens in are different brands. Also, using background audio feature. Also updated graphics drivers from asus site. My system specs are as follows:

Asus laptop
Intel core i7
ATI gpu HD 5730 w/ 1gb
4gb RAM
500 gb Harddrive

Songs are played from a Western Digital 500 gb harddrive.

Thanks:

[Roy Dennis]

If you Play the same songs using the HosterPrior version does it still hang ?
Does still hang if BA is turned of ?
Are they all a specific type like CDCCG, HDMP3,HDZIP or something else ?

I don't think this would help with the problem you mention but might be worth a try. Tools/Audio dialog is a control at the bottom for prevent audio dropouts, ranges 0 to 20 try adjusting it at it's extremes see if it has any effect.

Also in the same dialog check the fade settings.
In the remove silence dialog check the after audio ends silence setting.

[adamholbrook]

Ok, I have tried your suggestions. I have turned off remove silence all together, I've also turned off bkgrd audio. I also tried the audio control at both extremes, it still hangs! All of these songs that hang are HDMP3G files. I would try the hosterprior suggestion, but unfortunately, like an idiot, I deleted that shortly after upgrading (I'm a computer neat freak) thinking I didn't need it anymore. But, I know for a fact that I never had this problem on as many songs as I am now. Could all of these files have become corrupted?

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by adamholbrook

Ok, I have tried your suggestions. I have turned off remove silence all together, I've also turned off bkgrd audio. I also tried the audio control at both extremes, it still hangs! All of these songs that hang are HDMP3G files. I would try the hosterprior suggestion, but unfortunately, like an idiot, I deleted that shortly after upgrading (I'm a computer neat freak) thinking I didn't need it anymore. But, I know for a fact that I never had this problem on as many songs as I am now. Could all of these files have become corrupted?

How did you delete the Hosterprior, did you just delete the shortcut ?
If so you will still have access to the prior version from: C/Program files (x86)/Micro Technology Unlimited/Hoster in the folder you should see the HosterPrior.exe file, either create another shortcut to it or just double click the icon, this should be a copy of your previous version, you can check that from the Help/about Hoster.
See if it still hangs with that version.
You state in your first post that your songs are on an external drive, could you copy one to your C/drive and try loading it using the K-oke button and see if it still hangs at the end, if it doesn't this might mean the problem is related to the external drive.
Do you have any other programs running at the same time ?
I take it you have followed all the new recommended changes to windows, especially the power managment settings mentioned here: http://www.mtu.com/upgrades/hoster/windows7-changes.htm

[adamholbrook]

I've done some experimentation. And I am right back where I started, lol! I have 2 computers.. My laptop which I use for my show and I have given the specs for, and a desktop that I've installed hoster on just for editing at home. I could not get hosterprior to work even from the x86 folder (would never get past drive testing, hit save and just close). So I went to my desktop (moved my external drive over) and Wahlah! hosterprior loaded. Could not find anything in database (been a while since I used hoster on this computer) so I did a database rebuild. Never got past 2000 songs before it gave me a "Wrong parameters" error. Last night I noticed that one of my new mp3 songs that I just bought from Amazon did the hang at the end when I loaded it into the main list. So, I loaded it into hosterproior and played it, no hang. I wanted to confirm that it wasn't a computer issue, so I closed hosterprior and opened up the current version of hoster. The song ended fine. So, I'm thinking must be a computer issue. So, I tried a database rebuild in new hoster and the rebuild went fine. Loaded up the karoke song that I knew hung at the end, and it hung up again! So I tried to load up Hosterprior again and now it does the same thing on this computer that it did on my laptop! So, I'm not sure what to make of any of this.?

[johnnyk180]

I updated and now there is no screen that pops up for me to move over to the other monitor so my singers can see the words. Anyone know what could be causing this, or how to fix it?

[kod]

Trying going To Tools/Options and reset displays...

[johnnyk180]

Originally Posted by kod

Trying going To Tools/Options and reset displays...

It worked....Thank you so much!

[kod]

You're welcome ... Glad to help ...

[Mitd9922]

I would like to see when you pull up a singer, if the song they want isn't in their history, when you go to the search songs database, the singers name would already be there. Would save time.
Also, why can't uppercase letters be seen when searching for songs? Everything shows up with upper and lower case when you type a more expanded search. Thanks

[MTUSUPPORT]

Hoster 5.08 is being release now! You can read about the changes here. You can download the file from that location.

[MTUSUPPORT]

Video Hoster version 5.20.01 has been releasd! Read about it here http://www.mtu.com/upgrades/hoster.htm#v520.01