horizontal roll

[magk4u2]

I do not like this software....after 6 months of correcting the titles and artists, now I seem to experience horizontal roll on "some" monitors. This doesn't happen on all monitors...it is fine on my home HD TV, but not at the bar's HD TV....It also rolls on my small portable 13". I've tried changing the HZ setting already, no help. ANYONE?

[magk4u2]

I am using the Grandtec, PC to TV video component. Is this the correct product to be using?

[Roy Dennis]

I use this product and have not had any problems, plus it's a lot cheaper.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PC-VGA-TV-Vide...item563b59151e

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by magk4u2

I am using the Grandtec, PC to TV video component. Is this the correct product to be using?

My guess would be to say no this is not the right component. For one it is not set up to go to multiple devices or for any distance from the converter. Yes it has several differnet types of outputs but not for simultaneous use. The reason I say that is it has no amplification of the signal out.
It does not have it's own power source but feeds from the computer which is only a 5V source. Not much power to keep a signal very strong and bad for your computer especially if it is a laptop.
They even state that it will not work with most large screen HDTVs which I would guess is what the bar has.
You might want to read their support document as you may need to make some adjustments to your video card to get some TVs to work without the Horizontal roll. One thing they suggest is to set the card to a 60HZ refresh rate which is more common in TVs.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by magk4u2

I do not like this software....after 6 months of correcting the titles and artists, now I seem to experience horizontal roll on "some" monitors. This doesn't happen on all monitors...it is fine on my home HD TV, but not at the bar's HD TV....It also rolls on my small portable 13". I've tried changing the HZ setting already, no help. ANYONE?

First the Horizontal roll does not have anything to do with the program. This is a video output problem. Meaning it could be the video card, any converter?amplifier you are using, or even the cables.
What type of computer (laptop or desktop)?
What output are you using from the computer (S-Video, RCA, VGA, or HDMI)?
Are you using any type of converter/amplifier?
What kind of cables are you using between computer and monitors?
How long are the cables going to the monitors?

What changes are you having to spend 6 months on for titles and artists?

[ddouglass]

I have merged these two threads as they are about the same subject and by the same person.
magk4u2 Please Reply to this thread instead of starting a new one.

[magk4u2]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

First the Horizontal roll does not have anything to do with the program. This is a video output problem. Meaning it could be the video card, any converter?amplifier you are using, or even the cables.
What type of computer (laptop or desktop)?
What output are you using from the computer (S-Video, RCA, VGA, or HDMI)?
Are you using any type of converter/amplifier?
What kind of cables are you using between computer and monitors?
How long are the cables going to the monitors?

What changes are you having to spend 6 months on for titles and artists?

All hardware was recomended and purchased from MTU: Ruggedized laptop, PC to Video Component (no mention of amplification in the book)
Cables are VGA from Laptop to converter, and RCA (yellow) from converter to 13 in and HDTV
changes: when i imported the cds many were titles and artists came back as unknown, first name last name, or just wrong.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by magk4u2

All hardware was recomended and purchased from MTU: Ruggedized laptop, PC to Video Component (no mention of amplification in the book)
Cables are VGA from Laptop to converter, and RCA (yellow) from converter to 13 in and HDTV

MTU does not know what kind of setup you are going use. The equipment they sell is general and not necessarily enough for a complete hook-up. The converter that they sell and you purchased is just that and is not made to split between two monitors.
Because you are going to use two, you need a splitter/amplifier to get this to work correctly, for all song files. I too have had this problem with a couple brands that use some very bright backgrounds. Radio Shack has an inexpensive one that is for one RCA in and up to 8 RCA out. Add this in line between the converter and the monitor. I would also recommend you get shielded cables such as Monster cables though there are other brands that are not quite as expensive. Both of these changes completely cleared up my problems.

Originally Posted by magk4u2

changes: when i imported the cds many were titles and artists came back as unknown, first name last name, or just wrong.

Then in that case you were using the "on-line" search database. This is not controlled by MTU, but is a pass through link to FreeDB, a free on-line database that uses inputs from individuals. The bad part is they do not have very many of the Karaoke discs information and they require that the Artist be in the First Name Last Name format.
Had you used the built-in "Local" database, you would have found many more of the Karaoke Discs listed aand the Artist would have been in Last Name, First Name. You should have asked about it sooner and we could have saved you a few of yours problems.

[magk4u2]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

MTU does not know what kind of setup you are going use. The equipment they sell is general and not necessarily enough for a complete hook-up. The converter that they sell and you purchased is just that and is not made to split between two monitors.
Because you are going to use two, you need a splitter/amplifier to get this to work correctly, for all song files. I too have had this problem with a couple brands that use some very bright backgrounds. Radio Shack has an inexpensive one that is for one RCA in and up to 8 RCA out. Add this in line between the converter and the monitor. I would also recommend you get shielded cables such as Monster cables though there are other brands that are not quite as expensive. Both of these changes completely cleared up my problems.


Then in that case you were using the "on-line" search database. This is not controlled by MTU, but is a pass through link to FreeDB, a free on-line database that uses inputs from individuals. The bad part is they do not have very many of the Karaoke discs information and they require that the Artist be in the First Name Last Name format.
Had you used the built-in "Local" database, you would have found many more of the Karaoke Discs listed aand the Artist would have been in Last Name, First Name. You should have asked about it sooner and we could have saved you a few of yours problems.

Mr ddouglass, I purchased the Radio Shack the amplifier and it fixed my problem. I used the produce for the first time last night. For the most part I was happy. I am sure there is more to learn and get familiar with. I will look for the Monster cables but what I have did work. I did have some singers complaining of the color of the words. They were hard to see. The red on black and other labels that have odd combinations. Can you help or since you are the experienced one here, should I start a new thread? Thank you so much for your help.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Originally Posted by magk4u2

Mr ddouglass, I purchased the Radio Shack the amplifier and it fixed my problem. I used the produce for the first time last night. For the most part I was happy. I am sure there is more to learn and get familiar with. I will look for the Monster cables but what I have did work. I did have some singers complaining of the color of the words. They were hard to see. The red on black and other labels that have odd combinations. Can you help or since you are the experienced one here, should I start a new thread? Thank you so much for your help.

This is Rikki Tikki and not DDouglas, but maybe can help a little... now that you have your signal amplified with the RS Product, go back to your Grandtec converter and play with the Brightness, Hue, Contrast controls, to make fine adjustments to help solve your Resolution Control of the on-screen lyrics... I have had faint letters ( usually white ) show up on some of the cdg manufacturers from a while back. The odd coloration, could be satisfied for your clientele if you tweak the converter controls, so that the singer display matches your computer monitor... don't discount the use of good quality connections, and cabling in repairing this issue... use the knowledge of the KJ Vets that are trying to help you, without incurring the same problems, that we too, at one time had to overcome! We were all there once !!!

Good Luck!

[ddouglass]

The colors are set by the producers of the Karaoke songs. There is nothing that can be done by MTU or us to change that. So they will just have to complain, but tell them there is nothing you can do about that.

[billyo]

Originally Posted by magk4u2

I do not like this software....after 6 months of correcting the titles and artists, now I seem to experience horizontal roll on "some" monitors. This doesn't happen on all monitors...it is fine on my home HD TV, but not at the bar's HD TV....It also rolls on my small portable 13". I've tried changing the HZ setting already, no help. ANYONE?

Dale is right, your horizontal problem has nothing to do with the program,you said on the other post that you're using some kind of a converter, if i'm not mistaken i have the same one,and i havent had any problems with it..either on the back side or the on the side of that converter there's an adjustment ( can't remember what side i dont have my gears w/me ) but you can adjust those..i stand corrected i have the same one as Roy.