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Old February 17th, 2010, 11:31 PM
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Hide in Songbook doubt

When MTU released the Hoster version that included that feature I was very happy cause I thought that it could save me a lot of time and effort doing my catalogs. I remember I spent lots of nights doing the edit click-hide in songbook. Then another version of 4 came out and I switched laptops when I was about to print my catalog, all my work was gone. I was mad as &^%$. Never tried the feature again. Until now. I have too many new releases to keep my last year songbook so I tried the hide in songbook again. When I was in about 1/4 of my catalog the left hinge of my main laptop broke. (HP had to recall a lot of them). I tried to continue the work using yet another laptop and the external disk where I stored all my KMA's. What a surprise once again, not a single song was excluded as hide in songbook, all the info gone but this time I started to mark hide in songbook along with another language, like someone suggested to me and the language info is not gone.

How come this is still happening?
Does it mean that Hoster affects the KMA file when you change language but it does not when you select hide in songbook?
I mean, Does Hoster hold that info in the computer that you are working the hide in songbook but not in the KMA file?
Is this is the case, how can I recover that info from the previous laptop?
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Old February 17th, 2010, 11:54 PM
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I just read the previous thread that I started last year when this happened to me for the first time. Currently, I am using Hoster 4.11

IMHO, I think that MTU should change this feature to be stored into the kma not into the database. As my experience tells me, I may lose a computer, I may break it, I may not like it anymore and would like to use another one, I may have to rebuild the database, etc..

If I change computers I prefer to have the hide in songbook info in the kma files, that way is protected and it is transferable, in the database it is not.
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Old February 18th, 2010, 01:07 AM
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I hate to tell you this but this was fixed in either 4.09 or 4.10 (I forget which) and it does save the Hide in Songbook in the KMA. I had to make sure so I hid one on my home computer and rebuilt the database. The Hide check mark was still there. I also copied the KMA file to a 2nd computer and rebuilt its database. It shows the Hide checkmark now on the 2nd computer.
So this was fixed.
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Old February 18th, 2010, 03:01 AM
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I don't mean to argue about it but I have 4.11 on both laptops and the info is simply gone, is not there. Can you direct me as where to look
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Old February 18th, 2010, 03:28 AM
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And I just noticed that the start/end points are not there either, the new computer just started to scan for those points from zero.

I dont know how come this unique situations always happen to me. I am an experience Hoster user from the software beginnings, I understand it and have my ways around situation. It's been a while now.

I am running a new ASUS K61IC with 7 Home 64 with Hoster 4.11. I was using my HP DV 9060 the left hinge broke is getting fixed now, that one has XP and a Toshiba with Vista (find the details below). These three laptops had 4.11 installed.
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Vista Ultimate 32 Bit
Intel Core 2 Duo processor T7300 operating at 2.0GHz
4MB L2 cache
2GB of PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM memory
320GB of hard-disk storage on 2 Serial ATA (SATA) hard drives (160GB + 160GB)
nVidia GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 512MB of dedicated DDR2 memory, plus up to 255MB of shared
memory

HP DV 9060US
Windows XP Media Center Edition sp3
Intel Core 2 Duo at 1.66 GHz
2 GB RAM
Mobile Technology Intel Centrino Duo
hard drives (120 GB + 120GB)
nVidia GeForce Go 7600 with 256 MB dedicated memory
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Old February 18th, 2010, 12:57 PM
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There is no way to read the headers so no way to know if it is there except to look in the database and that doesn't guarantee it.
You would have had to set those items in 4.10 or in 4.11 (Remove Silence wasn't add until 4.10) and use those KMA to transfer to another computer and then rebuild the database on the second computer. If you look then in the database or check those particular songs in Edit Songs you will see the Hide is checked and the same for the Remove Silence will show under the test play.
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