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rickyrey February 17th, 2010 11:31 PM

Hide in Songbook doubt
 
When MTU released the Hoster version that included that feature I was very happy cause I thought that it could save me a lot of time and effort doing my catalogs. I remember I spent lots of nights doing the edit click-hide in songbook. Then another version of 4 came out and I switched laptops when I was about to print my catalog, all my work was gone. I was mad as &^%$. Never tried the feature again. Until now. I have too many new releases to keep my last year songbook so I tried the hide in songbook again. When I was in about 1/4 of my catalog the left hinge of my main laptop broke. (HP had to recall a lot of them). I tried to continue the work using yet another laptop and the external disk where I stored all my KMA's. What a surprise once again:m, not a single song was excluded as hide in songbook, all the info gone but this time I started to mark hide in songbook along with another language, like someone suggested to me and the language info is not gone.

How come this is still happening?:?
Does it mean that Hoster affects the KMA file when you change language but it does not when you select hide in songbook?
I mean, Does Hoster hold that info in the computer that you are working the hide in songbook but not in the KMA file?
Is this is the case, how can I recover that info from the previous laptop?

rickyrey February 17th, 2010 11:54 PM

I just read the previous thread that I started last year when this happened to me for the first time. Currently, I am using Hoster 4.11

IMHO, I think that MTU should change this feature to be stored into the kma not into the database. As my experience tells me, I may lose a computer, I may break it, I may not like it anymore and would like to use another one, I may have to rebuild the database, etc..

If I change computers I prefer to have the hide in songbook info in the kma files, that way is protected and it is transferable, in the database it is not.

ddouglass February 18th, 2010 01:07 AM

I hate to tell you this but this was fixed in either 4.09 or 4.10 (I forget which) and it does save the Hide in Songbook in the KMA. I had to make sure so I hid one on my home computer and rebuilt the database. The Hide check mark was still there. I also copied the KMA file to a 2nd computer and rebuilt its database. It shows the Hide checkmark now on the 2nd computer.
So this was fixed.

rickyrey February 18th, 2010 03:01 AM

I don't mean to argue about it but I have 4.11 on both laptops and the info is simply gone, is not there. Can you direct me as where to look:?

rickyrey February 18th, 2010 03:28 AM

And I just noticed that the start/end points are not there either, the new computer just started to scan for those points from zero.

I dont know how come this unique situations always happen to me. I am an experience Hoster user from the software beginnings, I understand it and have my ways around situation. It's been a while now.

I am running a new ASUS K61IC with 7 Home 64 with Hoster 4.11. I was using my HP DV 9060 the left hinge broke is getting fixed now, that one has XP and a Toshiba with Vista (find the details below). These three laptops had 4.11 installed.

ddouglass February 18th, 2010 12:57 PM

There is no way to read the headers so no way to know if it is there except to look in the database and that doesn't guarantee it.
You would have had to set those items in 4.10 or in 4.11 (Remove Silence wasn't add until 4.10) and use those KMA to transfer to another computer and then rebuild the database on the second computer. If you look then in the database or check those particular songs in Edit Songs you will see the Hide is checked and the same for the Remove Silence will show under the test play.

rickyrey February 18th, 2010 04:12 PM

As always
Thanks for your help


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