Hoster 4.5 lyric sync problem

[James w murray]

When I downloaded and installed 4.5 I had a problem with the lyrics lagging behind still with fast songs such as boogie woogie bugel boy. I had net framework 3.5 installed on my computer so I went back to net framework 3.0 but with no change with the lyrics lagging about a half second behind during fast songs. I now seem to have solved this problem buy switching from windows vista aero to windows vista basic. I'm going to test songs all day today to see if this is consistant. The cut off preview window display was fixed as well by switching to vista basic instead of vista aero
crossing my fingers this permenately fixed my problem

[KaraokeDj38030]

Originally Posted by James w murray

When I downloaded and installed 4.5 I had a problem with the lyrics lagging behind still with fast songs such as boogie woogie bugel boy. I had net framework 3.5 installed on my computer so I went back to net framework 3.0 but with no change with the lyrics lagging about a half second behind during fast songs. I now seem to have solved this problem buy switching from windows vista aero to windows vista basic. I'm going to test songs all day today to see if this is consistant. The cut off preview window display was fixed as well by switching to vista basic instead of vista aero
crossing my fingers this permenately fixed my problem

James,

I am sure you have help so many others experiancing the same problems you have detected have you tryed running any Video's yet I am using XP my Vista Machine is down big time so I won't be upgrading it. Have to get a new one however would be happy to just find another XP.Keeping my fingers crossed for you hope everything works well for you today.

I want to be sure You are saying VISTA AERO and framework 3.5 are seem to be the problem here.

[James w murray]

So far so good
Aero seems to be the main problem

[Skybird74]

I hate to ask stupid questions but I can't find .net framework even installed on my Vista? And, how did you get Aero in the first place, so I can be sure not to get it?

[KaraokeDj38030]

Originally Posted by Skybird74

I hate to ask stupid questions but I can't find .net framework even installed on my Vista? And, how did you get Aero in the first place, so I can be sure not to get it?

Sky,

No Question is a stupid question after all if we don't ask how will we ever find out the answers to them. I know for one I will stay away from Aero myself and stick with what I know. However I know when I upgrade my company I will have to get 4 OMG 4 Vista mechines at the first of the year. And This really makes me nervous.

[James w murray]

go to control panel programs and features then on the left hand side click turn windows on or off, when the windows populates your net framework version should show up

right click on your desktop then personalize then windows color and appearance if you have aero enabled you will see it in the window
select vista basic then apply

[Skybird74]

I don't want to change anythingjust to know if I've got .net framework. It's just that it does not show up in the list of programs that can be un-installed ... just in case it came with my new Vista laptop or installed itself when I wasn't looking

The view is the default setup which is also working fine, so I see no need to change it. Since the only other View option listed is "Classic" , I believe I have "Basic". I will save your instructions for future use

Since Vista is working fine for me with defaults settings, I don't want to change things just to satisfy my curiosity.
As the saying goes:
"If it's not broke, don't fix it".

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by James w murray

When I downloaded and installed 4.5 I had a problem with the lyrics lagging behind still with fast songs such as boogie woogie bugel boy. I had net framework 3.5 installed on my computer so I went back to net framework 3.0 but with no change with the lyrics lagging about a half second behind during fast songs. I now seem to have solved this problem buy switching from windows vista aero to windows vista basic. I'm going to test songs all day today to see if this is consistant. The cut off preview window display was fixed as well by switching to vista basic instead of vista aero
crossing my fingers this permenately fixed my problem

Hey James,
It sounds like you had two issues going on.

1. using net framework 3.5

2. running in aero mode

Hoster 4.05 denfinatly will not run correctly under .Net Framework 3.5 on XP for sure. If 3.5 won't run Hoster 4 on XP, it won't run on vista either I'm sure. I don't use Vista but I remember hearing that you have to cut off any bacground programs, run in basic mode and set your desktop to windows standard (I think). Bacically cut out all backgraound activity.

Thanks again for helping with a great find. I feel certain since net framework 3.5 is out of you machine, you will find the settings that make Hoster 4.05 run correctly for you.

Jim

[jetski10101]

Originally Posted by James w murray

When I downloaded and installed 4.5 I had a problem with the lyrics lagging behind still with fast songs such as boogie woogie bugel boy. I had net framework 3.5 installed on my computer so I went back to net framework 3.0 but with no change with the lyrics lagging about a half second behind during fast songs. I now seem to have solved this problem buy switching from windows vista aero to windows vista basic. I'm going to test songs all day today to see if this is consistant. The cut off preview window display was fixed as well by switching to vista basic instead of vista aero
crossing my fingers this permenately fixed my problem

I have been dealing with this same problem with the lyrics not catching up for 5 days now, and almost ran out of ideas before reading this thread.

Changing from Windows Aero to Windows Basic Solved it all.. Tested about 20 songs so far and its perfect. Thanks a Lot James!

[jetski10101]

Well my previous post i put that changing from aero to basic in Vista fixed the lagging lyrics, and i tested and tested and it seemed to work, but low and behold when i started my show tonite it was still there

It partly fixed the problem, but when a new page of lyrics loaded up, it lagged behind. As long as it was a slow song it eventually caught up, but still was a problem.

Tech support said 4.06 has this problem fixed, but i have some owners pretty upset with me, wondering if i should go to a previous version or if i can even download a previous one

Or can tech support put some light into this issue or if 4.06 is gonna have this fixed.

Any help would be great

[marklwood]

Originally Posted by jetski10101

changing from aero to basic in Vista fixed the lagging lyrics, and i tested and tested and it seemed to work, but low and behold when i started my show tonite it was still there

It partly fixed the problem, but when a new page of lyrics loaded up, it lagged behind. As long as it was a slow song it eventually caught up, but still was a problem.

When you tested, did you have a second monitor hooked up? It sounds like you are having a graphics lag problem with your video card, not a true sync issue.(because it eventually caught up on it's own) You need to relieve some of the stress from your video card. Some things to try and fix this.

Click and drag your singers display to not quite full screen.

Set your graphics at a lower level by changing resolution, or going from 32bit to 16bit graphics.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by jetski10101

Tech support said 4.06 has this problem fixed, but i have some owners pretty upset with me, wondering if i should go to a previous version or if i can even download a previous one.

4.06 has fixed the sync problem so far. I am not sure if it will fix this lagging problem. Marklwood gave you some good suggestions so I won't get into that.
MTU is shooting for early next week to get 4.06 out. They are working on a few other minor bugs this week, so should not be delayed unless something really bad comes up.
As far as downloading a previous version, it isn't available. That is why you should save those downloads. Do a search with Windows Explorer for Hoster403steup.exe and see if you have it on your hard drive somewhere and just not realizing it is there.
If not then you will have to stick with this one until 4.06 comes out. You can always switch and use 3.4 since it is still included.

[jetski10101]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

4.06 has fixed the sync problem so far. I am not sure if it will fix this lagging problem. Marklwood gave you some good suggestions so I won't get into that.
MTU is shooting for early next week to get 4.06 out. They are working on a few other minor bugs this week, so should not be delayed unless something really bad comes up.
As far as downloading a previous version, it isn't available. That is why you should save those downloads. Do a search with Windows Explorer for Hoster403steup.exe and see if you have it on your hard drive somewhere and just not realizing it is there.
If not then you will have to stick with this one until 4.06 comes out. You can always switch and use 3.4 since it is still included.

This is some good advice... And I feel completely like my hands are tied because i am so used to working with windows XP and know that program like the back of my hands that this Vista stuff is frustrating me beyond belief.

When i was at home testing before the show I had zero problems with the lyrics, i did not however have everything hooked up.. heres how I set up my laptop

I Use a PC to TV VGA adapter for my video output, and right click on my desktop to personalize and on my display settings i click on to extend my desktop. I then have just double clicked on the "floating" display window and it automatically went to my extended monitor which was the VGA output.

The only other thing i have running is Virtual DJ to play songs between singers, but i do not use any video output with that or anything and one of my other DJS has used the system like that for years on VISTA with no problems, however he has an older version of Hoster.

Funny thing is that when i go into my display settings, all I have for an option is 32 bit graphics. What else do you think could be putting such a load on the video card that makes that happen i could rectify and why would I not hav ethe 16 bit graphics option?

[marklwood]

Originally Posted by jetski10101

I Use a PC to TV VGA adapter for my video output, and right click on my desktop to personalize and on my display settings i click on to extend my desktop. I then have just double clicked on the "floating" display window and it automatically went to my extended monitor which was the VGA output.

Try dragging the singers display to the TV and grab the corner to resize to just under full screen.

Originally Posted by jetski10101

Funny thing is that when i go into my display settings, all I have for an option is 32 bit graphics. What else do you think could be putting such a load on the video card that makes that happen i could rectify and why would I not have the 16 bit graphics option?

Try lowering the display to 1024x768 or 640x480 if you can possible stand it (I can't)