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Are KJ's Professional?
Well from the topic "Pay rate around the country" we have gotten into a discussion about if KJ's are professional. Steve Walker says that KJ's are not considered profrssional. So here we can all discuss this and maybe some of us "professional" KJ's can change his mind. He is neither DJ or KJ but he is prime example on why KJ's are getting killed out in the world. I guess noone considers KJ's to be "professional"
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Here is a recap on how this started
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just an added opinion
my husband and I do kj/mc and have a classic rock/blues band here in naples italy. Its a unique situation that actually lends itseelf perfectly to this discussion. For example...we were hired by the american military to entertain a large aircraft carrier that had come into port, we have a large private park here for the troops, they sat up a large tent and had our band along with one other band, plus our karaoke and a dj playing dance music. The DJ was in another tent in a lower part of the park. sorry for the details but its important to my point. we were scheduled to play for 4 days in a row. the bands played starting at 5 finished at about 7 then karaoke till about 11pm. SO, the first day we went by the schedule, BUT....the whole time the bands played all the sailors were asking WHEN IS KARAOKE GETTING STARTED?? well needless to say, we were called in at 12 NOON to start karaoke for the last 3 days of the event, it went over like beer at a fraternity party. they didn't want the bands they didn't want the dj. in fact the dj didn't even play after the first 2 days. We have found over and over again, because I try and book the band as much as for the karaoke, Karaoke is #1 with all. we now have continuous gigs through september 3 times a week just to satisfy the military public here. it amazing and fun and exciting!!!! I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Wendy and Peppe JOKEY KARAOKE, NAPLES, ITALY |
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Very interesting!
FYI: My show has grown to 6 times a week, and might hit seven by late this spring. I never wanted that much work, and would never do it with disks, either. Thanx to the Hoster staff we have Hoster.
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Here is the rest of what was stated so far "I know I prob of gotten the ADMIN to move all of it but oh well lol it is here now
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Steve I now must find out what do you consider to be "professional"? By definition professional means:
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Just because before your name you have lets say "DJ Jeff" this does not make you "professional". When I start my shows whether I am a KJ for that night or DJ is "My name is Jake and I will be your host for the night for the next 5 hours." I do not add DJ or KJ I am their host. Now whether I am a KJ or a DJ I am professional on both sides of the board. I am not more professional when I DJ over when I KJ. Steve where does this make sense? Am I only professional when I DJ at weddings but when I KJ at a wedding I am not? If my show is always the same rather it be in the bar or at a wedding how am I not a "professional" KJ? I was never trained as a KJ and I was never trained as a DJ. They came as natural to me to do as golf did for Tigar Woods. Here is what I consider to be a "professional" KJ or DJ: You must have the love for the music inside and out. If you are in the business just for the money then you might as well get out now. You must look professional as in a nice appearance. Like Alan Ross said: In a bar wear some nice jeans and a nice button down shirt over wearing shorts and t-shirt. Do not under dress a gig but also do not over dress a gig either like as in do not wear a tux to host karaoke at a bar... but do not wear jeans and button down shirt at a wedding. Appearance does not stop with you!!!! Your equipment must also have a good appearance. If that looks bad even if you ARE in a tux... makes you look non-professional. You must ACT professional, this means no swearing over the mic, no ripping down your singers or dancers, keep the show flowing get the crowd into it. To me if your KJ or DJ does all of the above and more they are professionals.
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Ahh, as we try to redifine "Professional"!
It typically means in the American Society an occupation that requires some form of licensure, education, and some qualifying exams to prove to the public that you have demonstrated, at least by way of the above, a certain level of proficeincy in that particular field. However, the word professional, like many other American words, are extremely overused and often times go beyond their originally intended meaning. Also, because you have all the certifications stated above does not mean that you are better than someone that doesn't, but at it least says that you made the effort to honor the profession, and are aware of the laws that govern that profession, and are usually the only ones legalized to practice that profession. Karaoke DJ's or any form of music hosting does not require licenses, registration, proof of ability, which simply means that anyone can try it any where. Therefore, not a profession. Nor a professional. I am a registered professional engineer by profession and am legally allowed to practice that, charge for it, and guarantee thru liability, my services. Others who are not registered do the same thing, however, illegally, and perhaps even better. If they get caught, regardless of how good their design was, they go to jail, pay fines, or both. I also have a teacher's certification, of which required more schooling, more testing, etc. for me to practice that profession and get paid for it. DJ's do not fall under these strict laws of true professions. DJ's sort of go under the general category of hobbyist, paid hobbyist, unlicensed trade or occupation, blue-collar worker, semi-skilled laborer, skilled laborer, etc.
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1.following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder. 13.a person who is expert at his or her work Now under that definition it does not say you must have a college degree or some sort of certificate. However a DJ can very much go to some college courses and get a certificate. But by definition you do not need any formal schooling to become a "professional" in any trade or job. Someone who never went to school in your trade might have 10 to 20 + years of experience on you and I doubt they would get into any sort of trouble. When you get a so call by your terms "professional" job you can have 2 years of school and have a certificate and have 15 years experience on top of that and get a better job then someone with a higher degree then you when they have less experience. You do not always need to have any sort of paper to be a "professional" in your trade. We are not redefining anything here byrant. 10 even 20 years ago you didint need a degree for hardly anything. Michael Dell didn't have a degree when he started to build his computers out of the basement of his home. People that built houses from before time and even now still do not have degrees... they start out as kids doing the crap jobs and work their ways up and then join guilds or unions. You do not need a degree to drive a million pound diesal train for the railroad. In fact it is one of the first jobs you get in the railroad. I consider all these people professionals in their respected professions. Just because a DJ or KJ do not have a degree in their respected professions there are professional DJ's and KJ's there are also amature DJ's and KJ's. If anything you are trying to redefine what a professional is. If someone is in a profession they could be a professional in their profession. I gave the definition above in one of the posts... read it and it will show that you are wrong that you do not need a degree to be a professional (otherwise I would LOVE to see a professional baseball players or football players degree in playing baseball or football lol)
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Ouch. I didn't say you definitely need a certificate or education, I was trying to say that is one typical (but not always), definition in some terms; and also qualified that by saying the word itself is very, very, broad and can actually mean what you want it to.
I wasn't trying to redefine anything, just giving one of the typical definitions (prolly those used by those who do carry licenses and/or certificates). That's all. I hope I didn't construe any wrong meanings here, if so, my apologies. It's all good.
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