Mixing filler music between singers?

[ursongs]

After 3 years using hoster, then finding another software to make show better, coming back ....(compu host has glitches during music, and timing of music and words highlighting is not good.) need to find a better way to fade filler music like compu host. Hoster plays karaoke better and tools better. Does anyone know how to fade music instead of wam bam after dead air space. (with Hoster) Have to get creative announcing between songs now.

[ddouglass]

The next version of Hoster (4.10) is supposed to have a Cross fade function that will fade from Audio to Karaoke song or Audio to Audio. This has not been added to the beta tests yet so can't tell you how it will work. This new version is supposed to release early this next year, but nothing specific yet on a date.
As far as right now, the only way I know to do it is using your mixer control and fade the volume down and back up.

[mindonstrike]

Some folks have a second sound card with winamp or something similiar running through it, which is what I used to do without problems. I now run winamp through my backup computer.

A few folks who did this had audio drops while adding a track from a singer-owned-disk. I never had this problem but it's something you'd want to check.

Sam

[ursongs]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

The next version of Hoster (4.10) is supposed to have a Cross fade function that will fade from Audio to Karaoke song or Audio to Audio. This has not been added to the beta tests yet so can't tell you how it will work. This new version is supposed to release early this next year, but nothing specific yet on a date.
As far as right now, the only way I know to do it is using your mixer control and fade the volume down and back up.

Dean Replies w/: Yes have done that, but not as good as my mixer othe large system. Thanks for the info.
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[Roy Dennis]

This question of fill in music in between songs. Myself I have an old creative labs 6 GB music player loaded with mp3 music plugged in to my mixer directly, I just leave it playing, doesn't use any computer resources and just use the cross fader on the mixer when needed. those with more up to date gear could use an Ipod or any of the other available players. I noted in one of the other threads someone is doing the same with video on an Ipod, the only thing I have noticed with this is that video faders are quite expensive. I have recently added a muti format cdg, dvd player to my set up which I now use for singers own disc's and video. I purchased a cheap video switcher from Maplins for less than £15.00 and use that to switch the video source. With this I can show video at full dvd quality and I only carry 4 pre recorded DVD with me for playing in between songs but usually just leave one in the player all night.

[billyo]

i have never used a music filler in any of my shows,lets face it how long does it take for the next singer to get on the stage? i always let the the music play through till the next singer comes on and i just use my boards fader.. and i have several vdj software, hercules mk2, pcdj and mixmeister fo strictly djing..this is my opinion, thats why i bought hoster strictly for karaoke not for djing ,if i wanna dj i use my other programs...this in my opinion will elliminate some prblems...

[johnocolin]

Try experimenting with Javascript.You can design a simple web page for the intermission to include a mp3 script player with fade in and even have a slideshow to music.I´ve tried it and it works great.Use a random mp3 player script(there are enough freebies out there).Unfortunately can´t help if the Karaoke track ends with a long silence then you have to manually stop track before website loads.Just play around with webpages.If you rename your mp3s to a video format recognizable by media player and play them you can use the media player visualizations for example.Trial and error and some fun along the way.

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by billyo

i have never used a music filler in any of my shows,lets face it how long does it take for the next singer to get on the stage? .

Depends on the size of the club. If I got people in the back of the room with a packed house (big club), it can take up to 30 seconds in an extreme max. Usually avg 'long' time is about 15 seconds. If a song has a long outro, I use this as my fill music, if a song has an abrupt end, then the fill gets bumped up while the next singer is making their way.

[bobcox- with the Lord]

I use internal sound card for music, and soundblaster card for karaoke.
you can fade using your mixing board, very easy.
i never use filler music between singers, thats a no, no around here.
singers don't like it, by the time i say whos up and whos on deck, the next singer is starting.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by bobcox

I use internal sound card for music, and soundblaster card for karaoke.
you can fade using your mixing board, very easy.
i never use filler music between singers, thats a no, no around here.
singers don't like it, by the time i say whos up and whos on deck, the next singer is starting.

I use my backup laptop fed into other channel. Gotta have a backup anyway, right.

[Lonman]

Like the others I have a separate program running on a separate sound card fed to the mixer to fade in when I need.

[Joe Nieves]

I use VDJ 5.2.1 with Hercules Mk2 controller Video/Audio, Show clips no problems.

Transitions, announcements, birthdays & effects.

Joe...

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

I use VDJ 5.2.1 Show clips no problems.

Transitions, announcements, birthdays & effects.

Joe...

Ditto

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Lonman

Like the others I have a separate program running on a separate sound card fed to the mixer to fade in when I need.

Lon,
Whattya got for an ext. sound card, I got a Lil behringer thing. Once in a while I get a "no sound coming from anywhere" thing; I unplug the usb sound card, plug it back in, and it's okay?

I oughtta look at what you got, perhaps?

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by bryant

Lon,
Whattya got for an ext. sound card, I got a Lil behringer thing. Once in a while I get a "no sound coming from anywhere" thing; I unplug the usb sound card, plug it back in, and it's okay?

I oughtta look at what you got, perhaps?

I use a Lexicon Alpha. It's a great little unit complete with balanced 1/4" outputs.
I get that no sound anywhere on occasion, usually it's when the computer sits idle for too long (not at a show, but at home) & I have to unplug the USB on the unit to wake it up.

[admin]

Originally Posted by ursongs

After 3 years using hoster, then finding another software to make show better, coming back ....(compu host has glitches during music, and timing of music and words highlighting is not good.) need to find a better way to fade filler music like compu host. Hoster plays karaoke better and tools better. Does anyone know how to fade music instead of wam bam after dead air space. (with Hoster) Have to get creative announcing between songs now.

We have a lot of the "under the hood" code done for shifting between the views (Lyrics, Intermission, Audio, Video). It's complex, and we don't have the crossfade code done yet, but hopefully won't encounter any major problem. With Vista we NEVER KNOW what random critter will come up and bite us unexpectedly!

Originally Posted by ddouglass

The next version of Hoster (4.10) is supposed to have a Cross fade function that will fade from Audio to Karaoke song or Audio to Audio. This has not been added to the beta tests yet so can't tell you how it will work. This new version is supposed to release early this next year, but nothing specific yet on a date.
As far as right now, the only way I know to do it is using your mixer control and fade the volume down and back up.

Dale was right when this was posted. However, due to major setbacks from Vista and insuring the lyrics are in sync, in MY desire to release 4.10 with 34 new-upgrade-fixes added that fix some of the 4.6a problems, I postponed crossfade to 4.11.

We are hoping to release 4.10 next Monday after our Beta testers get a look at the "Final Release Candidate", hopefully today or tomorrow.

Once we get crossfade added and working with SYNC'd lyrics, it opens up a whole new level of removing "dead air". All the parts are in place in the Show Display views waiting for us to finish them.