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Old July 27th, 2004, 01:18 PM
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Exclamation KJ claims to have 75,000 songs?

I have some competition. (who is charging about half of what other KJ's charge) who is claiming to have 75,000 songs in his library. Forgetting for the moment that there has to be lots of duplicates. Is it even possible to have that many songs?

I did a quick scientific guestimate and came up with about only 50K Karaoke songs even available from the top 20 manufacturers.
You'd think there would be at least 20% duplication which would bring it to a total of 40K different songs. He is running on a laptop (Hoster), he's young and at less than $200 a show I can't see how he could afford to buy these songs anyway.

Does anybody know how many songs are out there or how you could figure it out?

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Old July 27th, 2004, 02:11 PM
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Re: KJ claims to have 75,000 songs?

"Hosterīs 2.1 built-in database contains over 196,000 song entries from approximately 13,500 Karaoke discs."

The above copied and pasted from the Hoster product description on the main website.
Now how many of those "over 196,000" songs would you think are duplicates?

Got to consider they are still releasing new ones even as we "speak".


George
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Old July 27th, 2004, 03:53 PM
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Re: KJ claims to have 75,000 songs?

I Am A Kj Who Has Over 85,000 Songs Not Counting The 20,000 Or So Repeated Songs Due To Various Mfg.

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Old July 27th, 2004, 04:08 PM
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Re: KJ claims to have 75,000 songs?

Wow!
Obviously my quick research wasn't even near the mark!
I had no idea there were so many songs out now!
Terry,
Just curious, have you ever kept track of which songs get requested the most? Do you have a core of lets say 10,000 songs and the rest get picked rarely or are the song choices pretty well spread out among the 85K?
The reason I ask is because I have about 10K songs and am trying to decide whether it's really worth it to go bigger.

Kevin Hall
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PS. How thick are your songbooks anyway?
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Old July 27th, 2004, 05:01 PM
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Re: KJ claims to have 75,000 songs?

That really SUCKS!!
Hard to compete with $200/ show - are you coming up with ways to be better then him so you can charge a FAIR rate? I'm just starting and if I only charged $200/show I couldn't buy any more discs! He must live with his parents!! If there is any way I could help with ideas - e-mail me let's share them and keep the rate where it should be!! I'm all for competetion but we need to get paid!!!

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Old July 27th, 2004, 05:09 PM
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Re: KJ claims to have 75,000 songs?

Kevin,

We kept track of the songs being sung at our shows for a year. We found that only 20% of our library was being sung.

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Old August 28th, 2005, 03:07 AM
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[quote=kevinjanet]I have some competition. (who is charging about half of what other KJ's charge) who is claiming to have 75,000 songs in his library. Forgetting for the moment that there has to be lots of duplicates. Is it even possible to have that many songs?

One way to do a better show is put a video overlay unit on and a cheap camera
and the singers are veiwed on the screen with words attached, a dvd recorder
to the setup and record them for a price it works for me and I have the best setup in town, they Luv it
regards John
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Old September 7th, 2005, 01:52 PM
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You can't do that legally.
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Old September 9th, 2005, 02:29 PM
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Video ?

I think G-force is right. That opens up all kinds of cans of worms. Hope Big Brother recording industry never comes to see your show. Their lawyers would have a field day. It is best to just keep it simple and not Flashy.

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Old September 9th, 2005, 05:58 PM
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The video overlay is a good idea, but very expensive to implement. Selling the recording is the not so legal part. I was going to implement a slideshow of the singers in between songs, but found that I had too much going on on my desktop with winamp for bumper music, hoster and messageoke pro running at the same time even with a 3.0 ghz machine and a gig of ram.
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Old September 9th, 2005, 06:02 PM
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Selling the recording is the not so legal part.
Can't legally even give copywritten material away.

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Old September 12th, 2005, 12:50 PM
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I think G-force is right. That opens up all kinds of cans of worms. Hope Big Brother recording industry never comes to see your show. Their lawyers would have a field day. It is best to just keep it simple and not Flashy.

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Yes you are right it was a gimic anyway, recorder is taken out thats for that
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Old January 18th, 2006, 03:05 AM
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Uh...yea

That's a LOT! Most places I've worked people were impressed with my library. And I have a little over 5,000 songs. I'll bet I have a bunch that he doesn't even have!

Do your best. Keep your rates where they belong. Don't whore yourelf out and demand respect. The cream always rises to the top!
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Old January 28th, 2006, 01:43 AM
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WHAT is a video overlay....interested!

[quote=Heatline]
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IOne way to do a better show is put a video overlay unit on and a cheap camera and the singers are veiwed on the screen with words attached, a dvd recorder to the setup and record them for a price it works for me and I have the best setup in town, they Luv it
regards John
Heatline, how do you do this overlay thing? Are you saying that you can get a picture of the singer and put it in the background of the lyrics?
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